Dear Customers,
Good day to all of you.
This is Masao Kuwabara of Autorec Tanzania Limited and Yuichi Mizuno ofAutorec Enterprise LTD. Japan.
Thanks to you,
We have been operating business in Tanzania with lots ofjoy.But there have been one serious problem that all the exporters, not only Autorec, who do business with Tanzania are facing. We have been making lots of effort to solve the problem, but it still remains in Tanzania.
Today, I'd like to figure out what is happening in Tanzania against used vehicle trade. And we'll appreciate a lot if you'll give us your advices on this issue.
As all of you are aware, IMPORT REGULATIONS against used vehicles havebeen started in Tanzania since July 2006. Now if one will import usedvehicles whose age is exceeding 10 years, they will be penalised andcharged extra 20% excise duty.This kind of regulation is found with several more countries.
And as a trader who do business with Tanzania, we respect the country's policy.We shall not go against it or complain about it.
Therefore, since this policy started, we have been trying to adjust ourstock so that they will meet the demand of customers in Tanzania. Nowyou may find many 1999+ vehicles in our stock.But there's a serious problem with this policy as it has been operatedwithout clear definition about the AGE OF THE VEHICLES.
Let us share one sample story here.
1) Unreasonable penalties against some importers in Tanzania Some time ago, one of the customers has bought a JZX100 MARK II 1999model. As this is of year 1999, definitely, the customer didin't have to be penalised. However, once the vehicle reached Dar es salaam port, the officers ofTanzania's Customs have inspected the vehicle phisically, and finally started saying that this vehicle is manufactured in 1995!
They said so because they found a small label on the vehicle's seatbelt saying "1995". While the vehicle had come with the EXPORT CERTIFICATE issued an dauthorised by Govenment of Japan and another certificate issued by JAAI(Japan Automobile Appraisal Institute), both clearly indicates its yearas 1999, Customs office still insist that this vehicle is of 1995 and thus should be penalised.
2) Manufactured year of seatbelt is not manufactured year of the vehicle Actually, I have done some research about the label on the seatbelt while I was still in Japan. I have communicated with TOKAI RIKA company,who is the manufacturer / supplier of the seatbelts for TOYOTA's products. They told me that the information on the label of the seatbelt simply shows the manufactured year of the seatbelt itself!
In heavy industries such as vehicle manufacture, the products are manufactured by cooperation of several companies so that they can reduce the time and cost.
If it is about this MARK II, there should be seatbelt manufacturer,window screen manufacturer, computer manufacturer, tyre manufacturer,electric parts manufacturer, head lamp manufactuer, gasket manufacturer,tube manufacturer, bolt & nut manufactuer and so on and so forth.
Each manufactured parts will be brought to the warehouse or the factoryof vehicle manufacturers (such as TOYOTA) and then a unit of vehicle will be assembled there.
It is very much possible for some parts to spend several months or even more than a year before it will be assembled to a vehicle. Therefore, NO BODY CAN DEFINE THE AGE OF THE VEHICLE FROM THE SEATBELT LABEL OR ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE VEHICLES.
Especially, with this JZX100 MARK II, it is totally wrong for them to insist that this was manufactured in 1995. There's a clear reason to deny their statement. Why??? Because TOYOTA STARTED SELLING JZX100 IN LATE 1996!! THEREFORE, IN 1995, THIS PARTICULAR MODEL DIDN'T EXIST EVEN ON CATALOGUES!!!
3) Definition of the vehicles' "age" in Japan Unfortunately, we learnt that there are some misunderstandings among the Customs officers at the port about definition about the age of thevehicles. Once they find the labels on the belts like this, they just disregard the authorized documents and try to charge additional duty against importers. And this is totally wrong. Most of the vehicles we sell originate in Japan. Therefore, we process the paper work and other arrangements based on the documents published by the Government of Japan, Government of MANUFACTURERS' COUNTRY.
On this official document called "Export Certificate", it only shows the YEAR OF FIRST REGISTRATION of the vehicles. There's no information about MANUFACTURED YEAR. This is how they control the product in Japan.
Information of manufactured year of the vehicles are not obtainable.Both for domestic and oversea market, the used / new vehicles suppliers do the paper work by using the data on this document because there are no other official documents to identify the vehicles.
But to the Customs in Tanzania, it looks like this document is notacceptable.
The differences on the definition of the AGE OF THE VEHICLES between Tanzania and Japan is creating serious problems.
4) Autorec's efforts to solve this problem One day, I have seen Commissioner for Customs and Excise face to face in his office and discussed about this problem. Unfortunately, there was no good solution on that day. Commissioner told me that this is just a minor problem as these are only a few cases among lots of cars. Instead, he promised me that he's going to solve these one by one by communicating with the manufacturers in Japan to know the actual manufactured year once the same case comes out.
Believing his word, when we had another problem with NISSAN MARCH, chassis number k11-683281, I asked for his assistance.
I was thinkingthat he has a special relationship with the manufactures in Japan and he can get such information that we can not get from them. However, instead of contacting NISSAN MOTORS in Japan, he contacted D.T.Dobbie (NISSAN's distributor in Tanzania).
Once D.T.Dobie told him that they don't deal in used cars, it was the end of his investigation.
We, Autorec, has contacted NISSAN MOTORS by ourselves, explained the situation, and finally got a letter from NISSAN to identify the manufactured year of this unit as an exceptional case (they normally don't publish such information).We brought this letter to the Commissioner and we believed that this will be solved.
But I was surprised to know the Commissioner's next action. Once again, he sent this letter from NISSAN to D.T.Dobbie, an donce again, D.T.Dobbie told him that they don't deal with used cars, and once again, it was the end of his investigation!
Why should he communicate with D.T.Dobbie while we brought him theletter from original manufacturer? This is very much not understandable.
The case remained unsolved.On another day, I received a letter from the Commissioner as a reply to my letters. In that message, he was saying that now he understood that the year on the seatbelt label is not the year of manufactured year of the vehicle. But still then, the people of the Customs are still judging the age ofthe vehicle by checking the seatbelts and other small parts.
We have been fighting against this misunderstanding. We have beensending letters to Commisioner of Customs and Excise again and again. We send CC to TBS, TRA, Ministry of Finance, JAAI, Embassy of Tanzania in Japan and Embassy of Japan in Tanzania. We have been appealing that the importers in Tanzania should not be charged unfair duties from such amisunderstanding. Unfortunately, the Commissioner of Customs is not even replying to ourletters these days.
Then we have also sent simillar letter to Parmanent Secretary of Ministry of Finance. We also got diplomatic support from Embassy of Japan in Tanzania, Japanese Ambassador has sent an official letter to Ministry of Finance.
We are hearing that in August 2007, by sending letter to the Commissioner for Customs and Excise, Ministry of Finance has advised them to reconsider the definition of the age of the vehicle. But we haven't seen any changes even after that.
We have been explaing all about this to the people mentioned above and asking them to reconsider the definition of the age of the vehicle.
In January 2008, I have spoken to the people of Embassy of Japan once again and asked for some diplomatic assistance because I was feeling that the authority in this country is not interested to listen to the voice of one small vehicle supplier.
This time, the First Secretary of Embassy of Japan has met Commissioner for Customs and Excise by himself and discussed on the same issue.According to the story I heard from the Secretary, the Commissioner has understood the situation and promissed that he will work on this to solve the problem.
Embassy of Japan has wrote an official letter once again to appeal that the vehicles' age should be defined based on the official documents because there's nothing else apart from that.
5) Problem for Autorec, the supplier
The issue itself is something between the importers and the Customs inTanzania. Therefore, the authority treat us as if we are just outsiders. It seems as if they are saying that it is not something that a supplier like Autorec should interrupt. But the situation doesn't allow us to sit behind.We explain the nature of these problems to the importers (our customers) who actually suffered this problem and advice them to insist against the Customs that they have the proper vehicle and official documents. But, instead of fighting against misunderstandings of Customs authority, some of them actually turn around and start attacking Autorec, saying thatAutorec has sent fake documents / cars and cheated them!
Some of them even threaten us that they are going to take it a court case or attack us through media. This is totally not acceptable because Autorec has done nothing wrong in the procedures.
Something more unpleasant for us is the fact that some of the Customs officers, when they found the seatbelt label which has different information with the official document, tell the importers that the supplier (Autorec) has tricked them with forged documents!!!
We totally don't understand why people on a responsible position can say such an irresponsible word without doing researches!!!! This is like exeucting someone for guilty without properly checking!!!
This is a clear offensive disturbance to our business. Or they are making us a scapegoat so that the importers will not complain against them. And as you can see, this is not a problem only for Autorec, but for the used vehicle trade business as a whole.
Indeed, this is actually creating a very negative image not only to our business but for the customers in Tanzania who intend to import used vehicles from Japan.
While we are shipping the right vehicles in right procedure with proper documents (authorized by the Government of manufacturer's country), some importers misjudge that we are cheating them. This would be a serious damage to us if they continue doing this.
I understand the anger and disappointment of the importers who are charged of the penalty of 20% against a vehicle they bought as less 10-year-old cars. But even if they attack us, there's no solution because there was nothing wrong on our side.Therefore, we need a fundamental solution.
6) Similar problem and its solution in Kenya
In Kenya, several years ago, they had the same problem as they also have
year regulation against used vehicle import.
year regulation against used vehicle import.
Actually, the problem was more serious in Kenya, because once the vehicle would be recognised as over 8-year-old, they are simply not allowed to import that car. Therefore, the importers in Kenya had fought against the authority by themselves.
Of course, we, the suppliers, also assisted them. As a result, Kenya's Ministries, KRA(Kenya Revenue Authority) andKBS (Kenya Bereau of Standard) have worked together to solve this problem, and finally decided to judge the year of the cars based on theinformation on the documents.
Since then, there has been no such troubleon the same issue in Kenya.
This story gives an idea that there's no solution so long as theycontinue checking the seatbelts and other parts.....
Thank you very much indeed for reading such a long story. But I'msure this is a serious problem that any of you may also suffer.
We have been fighting against this, but as this is an internal problem in this country, something that a foreigner can do is limited. As anoutsider, we cannot intervene the country's policy.Not having good fruit after such a lot of effort, we are feeling as if we are stuck.
Therefore, now we'll appreciate if you'll give us your ideas and view on how to solve this problem.
Once again, thank you very much indeed for your understanding and assistance to us.
Best regards,
Masao Kuwabara
Autorec Tanzania Limited
E-mail : masao@autorectz.com
Address : Room 425,
4th floor,
Harbour View Towers,
Samora Ave.,
P.O.Box 5023,
Dar es salaam,
Tanzania
Phone : +255-22-2124101
Fax : +255-22-2124103
Cell : +255-753-193583
Yuichi Mizuno
Autorec Enterprise LTD.
Japan Website : http://www.autorec.co.jp
E-mail : yuichi@autorec.co.jp
Mobile : +81-904-794-7240 ( Yuichi )
Office : +81-567-56-6111
Fax : +81-567-56-6511
Address :1-2 Chome,
Nishishijimi,
Yatomi-City,
Aichi-Pref
490-1427.
Japan
before you think of boring us with your long stories,polish your lingua or employ a secretary who can write english,how are we to know you are not bogus,if the lingua leaves much to be desired
ReplyDeleteI experienced the same problem when i tried to import 3 toyota Rav 4's from Japan. Customs officials in Holili Moshi charged me 6 Milion more stating that vehicles were older than 10 years while they weren't.
ReplyDeleteI sued them in Moshi and TRA defended the case. I lost a lot more than 6 million. This is what the judge said. It is up to the importer to prove that these vehicles are not older than 10 years old. These registration documents do not prove or show the date of manufacture. They merely show the date of registration. I contacted Toyota to get proof but they were not interested.
OUTCOME
After loosing the case TRA claimed 25 Million TSHs as legal fees. I had to pay my own lawyer 3 Million from my pocket. TRA presented proof of costs incurred as a result of the case. It wa a 26 page report. They calimed a team of 5 went to Japan to investigate the matter. The judge agreed.
They seized and sold two vehicles at an auction cause I couldn't pay a total of 28 million as legal costs and 6 million as duty. My vehicles were sold under judge orders for a total of 23,580,000.
I paid the remaining amount of 1.5mil plus duty from my own pocket to recover the third vehicle.
I advise those who fill mistreated to accept defeat. I almost commited suicide. You will loose everything. Trust me.
Nyoosheni mikono ilambwe. Acheni kupoteza muda na mara ubalozini mara kidiplomasia. Hapo ni kumrichmond tu huyo afisa na mambo yanakwenda na hawatasoma tena terehe ya manuf kwenye seat belts.Bongo ukishangaa unaachwa ferry. JK rushwa ndo kaikuza kabsaa.Yani ukiwa kigogo ukivuta mshiko unaombwa ujiuzulu ukale mapene yako swaafi.Potelea mbali acha watu wabebe maboksi
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BWANA MASAO KUWABARA NIMESEMA RIPOTI YAKO UTANISAMEHE SANA KAMA WEWE NI MZAWA AU NI MJAPANI MAANA JINA LAKO SI LA KIMATUMBI.
ReplyDeleteKWELI NAKUBALIANA NA MATAMSHI YAKO INAGAWA LUGHA YAKO HAIPO KWENYE HADI YA KIBIASHARA(POOR LITERATURE), LAKINI UNGEFAHAMU KITU KIMOJA JUU YA TRA NA THA AU MAOFISA WENGINE WA FEDHA.
NCHI YETU IMETAWALIWA NA RUSHWA NA NI MIONGONI MWA NCHI MAARUFU BARANI AFRIKA NA DUNIANI KOTE KWA KUPOKEA RUSHWA.
KUANZIA NGAZI YA JUU HADI YA CHINI YA MMACHINGA ANAYECHUUZA VITU MITAANI.USIPOANGALIA UTALANGULIWA HADI NA MAMAM NTILIE.
KWA HIYO PAMOJA KUPIGA KELELE TELE HUMU NDANI KWA KUTUMIA UNG'ENG'E WAKO, HAWA JAMAA,AU WA NGAZI ZA CHINI AU HATA JUU KWENYE JUMBA JEUPE, HAKUNA ATAKEKUSIKILIZA.
NDIYO MAANA TUNAISHIA KUOMBA MISAADA KILA KUKICHA KWANI FEDHA ZOTE AMBAZO ZINGEPASWA KUINGIA KWENYE MFUKO WA SERIKALI, ZINAISHIA KWA WACHACHE AMBAO JIONI UTAWAONA KWENYE MA-PUB NA NIGHT CLUB WAKIVINJARI.
HIYO 20% UNAYOIZUNGUMZIA AMBAYO USHURU WA ZIADA, HAUENDI POPOTE NA USIPOANGALIA HATA USHURU KAMILI UNATAKIWA KULIPWA KWA GARI LOLOTE LILE, HUISHIA MATUMBONI MWA WACHACHE.
NDVYO TUNAVYOISHI NA NDIVYO TUTAKAENDELEA KUISHI HADI HAPO NTAKAPOSIMAMA KUWANIA KITI CHA URAIS 2010 NA KUHAKIKISHA NAPIGANA NA RUSHWA MIMI MWENYEWE BINAFSI.
NITAHAKISHA NINAPATIWA NAKALA YA MAPATO NA MATUMIZI YA KILA BIADHAA AU CHOMBO KINACHOINGIZWA AMA KUTOKA NJE YA NCHI ILI KUONDOA UOZA HUU. NI KAZI RAHISI MNOOOO. TATIZO VIONGOZI WETU WANAONA HAYA.
SIMPO LIKE THAT. KUANZIA MIMI BINAFSI HADI WAZIRI HUSIKA, TUTAKUSANYA MAPATO YA WIKI MOJA TU TRA NA KUHAKIKISHA KIWANGO KAMA HICHO AIDHA KINAFIKIWA AMA KUVUKA NA WATAKAOCHUKUA NAFASI ZAO. KINYUME CHA HAPO NI KUFUKUZWA KAZI NA KUFUNGULIWA MASHTAKA YA WIZI.
HUKUMU YAKE SIMPO...KUKATWA MOJA KATI YA VIUNGO VYAKE HASA ULIMI NA VIDOLE. WANAOIBA SANA TUNAWAMWAGIA TINDIKALI MACHONI NA KUKATA VIDOLE. HIYO NDIYO HUKUMU...TUONE KAMA KUNA MTU ATATHUBUTU KUIBA!
maelozo yako mengi sana ila tunakuhunga mkono kwa hilo na ukiangalia kama wanasema wana punguza magari ya zamani yasijae hapa tz sasa sisi watanzania tuna uwezo wa kununua kweli magari ya 08 kweli??au ndio ufisadi wao wa kutaka kutu richmond wote mbona wamesha tukaramaghi sana.
ReplyDeleteWanasema magari mengi sana wapi yako mengi?/dar sawa kule kwa kina chinga kule ntwara hakuna magari mengi sasa dumping inakujaje??wakati magari yana tumika??huu wote ni ubabaishaji na kampeni zikianza watasema leteni kila gari mnalotaka sasa ni ujanja tu wa kijinga
It is too long to read but just from one of your concerns my advice to you is this in order to avoid a lot of inconveniences just try to inspect yours cars thoroughly and make sure none of the products are beyond 10 yrs.
ReplyDeleteWe are very eager to blame the system while we don't follow the rule
Nobody needs a 13 yrs old seatbelt with our roads and the kind of drivers we have.
You might think it is a very simple thing but safety wise it is not good. The belt is over the 10 yrs gap and it is in the car you are trying to export into our country. If they let one part of the car to be older, I am sure tomorrow you find people importing cars with the old engines an old body with the new engine. It is the same scenario just a different version of the story.
Just obey the rules you will be fine…this policy tries to discourage people to import junk things in our country... that is including junk car parties (like your old 13 yrs seatbelts)
Inashangaza sana. Mimi mwenyewe nipo naisha Japan kila mara nikituma gari hawa jamaa wa TRA wanaongeza thamani ya bei na wanasema eti document ni feki ukiwauliza how na kwanini wasiwasiliane na mamlaka husika za Japan wanasema tumeangalia kwenye internet na gari kama hii inauzwa bei hii. Jamani inasikitisha na hii nikutokana na hawa maofisa kutokuwa compitent. Yaani unaenda kuangalia bei ya walanguzi kwenye internet ndio inakuongoza? kwanini wasiwasiliane na mamlaka husika? Hiyo gari imenunuliwa mnadani, imesafirisha, umekuwa inpsected na imelipiwa kodi Japan kwanini wasiwasiliane na wenza wa Japan?
ReplyDeleteSasa hivi tanzania wameongeza hata gharama ya JAAI inspection na kila ghari TBS wanapata kama dola 200 hivi kwa wastani je hawa jamaa wa inspection nao tunawalipa wa nini kama TRA haiwezi kuwaamini? Ni uonevu na ulimbukeni wa wawatendaji wetu. Mimi ninahasira sana na hawa jamaa wa TRA.
dear wadau,
ReplyDeletecan anyone please tell me how much it cost for custom duties and clearing when someone import 4WD car or mark 2 mayai? maana sasa hivi inabidi nifuate sera za CHIBIRITI, mambo yote ni ku-invest home tu,seriously wadau naomba mtu anayejua awakilishe.
Je inakuaje iwapo paperworks zinaonye motokaa 2007 namikanda inaonyesha niya 1995
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Vyuo vyetu inabidi vibadili namna ya kuwafundisha wanafunzi. Kufundisha wanafunzi kwa style ya kujibia past papers ndio kunazalisha products za namna hii. Kama hawa maofisa wasingekua wanakrem wanavyofundishwa basi wangeweza ku-think critically na kuweza kujua kua unaweza kua na gari lililotengenezwa mwaka 2000 na kuwa na ipuri cha 1997, lakini hiyo ikiwa haimaanishi kuwa hilo gari ni la mwaka 1997 just because lina kipuri cha 1997. Hii ni challenge kubwa kwenye system nzima ya education. Walimu - Teach students critical thinking skills... Acheni kuwafundisha wanafunzi kukrem notes zenu... ama namna ya kujibu MCQs
ReplyDeleteThis had also been one of the causative agent of prolonged clearance of consignment at this Bongo port. Bongo kitu kidogo huchukua miaka kuslove ndo maana majirani zetu Kenya wanatupiga Bao kwenye biashara kwanini TRA wasitumie ubalozi wetu Japan kufuatilia kwa all manufacturers wajue ukweli na kutoa Tamko it is that simple!!! wala haihitaji extra brain
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ReplyDeleteI THINK THE BEST WAY IS TO CONDUCT A SEMINAR/WORKSHOP WHICH WILL INVOLVE SOME STAKEHOLDERS FROM:
ReplyDelete-TANZANIA REVENUE AUTHORITY
-BOARD OF INTERNAL/EXTERNAL TRADE
-MINISTRY OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY
-Japan Automobile Appraisal Institute (JAAI)
-JAPANESE EMBASSY
-TOKAI RIKA COMPANY
AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER INCLUDING TSCAN, PORT AUTHORITY AND CLEARING AND FORWARDING AGENCIES
SO THAT YOU CAN SHARE AND EXCHANGE IDEAS, I HOPE WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE YOU CAN REACH CONCLUSION.
THIS IS ONE TIME COST BUT CAN CLEARLY SOLVE THE EXISTING PROBLEMS.
wabillah Tawfiq
WATANZANIA,watanzania,watanzania wenzangu,its about time,tupate ujanja wa kuweza kusoma between the lines.serikali inajaribu kulimit cars on our roads cause the infrastructure can take no more,hii policy imeingizwa through the back door unannouced,i fail to understand baadhi ya watoa maoni dont seem to think of this angle,watoza ushuru hawana kosa wanafuata instructions za discourage car imports
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ReplyDeleteI FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATIONS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE ORDERED A CAR LESS HAN 10 YEARS BUT I AM PREPARED TO PAY FOR 20% EXTRA. THAT IS TANZANIA!
THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION COUPED WITH INCOMPETENCE IS SO DEEP IN TANZANIA THAT THEY DON'T TRUST ANYONE AND THEY CANNOT EVEN THINK RATIONALLY ANYMORE. ONE IS COMPELLED TO THINK THAT THERE IS LUCK OF EXPOSURE, LUCK OF UNDERSTANDING OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE IN TERMS OF CULTURAL DIFFERENCES, AND LUCK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE MEANING AND VALUE OF TRUST(OR LUCK OF IT)
CULTURALLY, YOU SHOULD TRUST DOCUMENTS FROM OFFICIAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS JAAI. YOU SHOULD TRUST DOCUMENTS FROM SAY, JAPAN, FINLAND, NORWAY, KOREA, BUT NOT NECCESARILY FROM, SAY DUBAI, PAKISTAN, INDIA, ETC. IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMS COMMISSIONER AND HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT JAAI DOCUMENTS, YOU CAN EASILY SATISFY YOUR SELF BY CONTACTING THEM ONCE AND FOR ALL THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS, AND ANYTIME IF THERE IS AN ISOLATED PROBLEM. BUT TO LET YOUR LOCAL INSPECTORS(WHO READS THE SEATBELT YEAR!!?)DECIDE THE AGE OF THE CAR IS UNFORTUNATE!
LUCK OF TRUST OF JAAI DOCUMENTS COSTS EVERY IMPORTER OF A DISPUTED CAR 20% OF THE VALUE. THATS HOW THE COMMISSIONER IS COSTING IMPORTERS BY NOT BEING COMPETENT ENOUGH TO ESTABLISH A WAY TO TRUST JAAI DOCUMENTS. IT IS ALSO A HUMILIATION FOR JAAI THAT THEIR DOCUMENTS ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY! IN A CULTURE(JAPANESE)WHERE TRUST AND RESPECT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, COMPANY AND THE RULE OF LAW IS SO PARAMOUNT, (AND WE CAN SEE THAT IT WORKS!!), TREATING JAAI AS AN ORGANIZATION WHOSE DOCUMENTS CANNOT BE TRUSTED IS VERY DISTURBING. IN OUR CULTURE, YOU CAN DISRESPECT YOUR CUSTOMERS, FELLOW CITIZENS, AND IT JUST OK!!(AND WE CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS!!)
SOME PEOPLE ABOVE THINK YOUR STORY IS TOO LONG, OTHERS THINK THAT YOU PUT TOO MUCH EFFORT ON THIS ISSUE. THE IMPLICATION IS THAT THEY ARE CONTENT WITH "THINGS AS THEY ARE", THAT THEY ARE USED TO BEING MISTREATED TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY THINK IT IS OK.
I CONGRATULATE JAPANESE EMBASSY IN TANZANIA FOR SHOWING HOW EMBASSIES ACTUALLY PROTECT THEIR COUNTRIES' INTERESTS. IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE ALSO PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF TANZANIAN IMPORTERS!
THE CUSTOMS OFFICER YOU TALKED TO SO MANY TIMES SEEMS TO BE "THRIVING IN AMBIGUITIES". THERE IS A PROBLEM BUT HE IS NOT SOLVING IT. HIS HORIZON IS AS FAR AS D.T DOBBIE!, AND AS D.T DOBBIE ARE NOT INTERESTED, THE AMBIGUITIES SEEMS TO PREVAIL, AND THE OFFICER IS JUST FINE!
WHY SHOULD HE THINK THAT D.T DOBBIE WILL HELP? IMPORTATION OF USED/NEW CARS BY AUTOREC MEANS INCREASED COMPETITON FOR D.T. DOBBIE. IN OTHER WORDS, D.T. DOBBIE WOULD RATHER HAVE AUTOREC CLOSED! SO WHY DOES THE OFFICER THINK THAT D.T. DOBBIE WILL ADVICE POSITIVELY ON SOLVING AUTOREC PROBLEMS? THIS MATTER NEED CRITICAL THINKING AND WISE DISCRETION, NOT CONSULTING COMPETITORS.
I DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE PROBLEM OF FORGERIES IN TANZANIA, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CUSTOMS OFFICERS DO A VERY DIFFICULT JOB, BUT THEN IT IS IMPRUDENT TO TREAT EVERYONE AND ALL AS CHEATERS.
THERE IS GLEAM OF HOPE IN THE HORIZON. ADVANCES IN ICT MEANS THAT LEADERS CREATING CHAOS AND THRIVING IN UMBIGUITIES WILL BE EXPOSED AND, SLOWLY, THEY WILL BE FORCED TO RESPECT THEIR CUSTOMERS AND TREAT THEM WITH DIGNITY. THE DAYS OF HIDING BEHIND THEIR FOUR WALLS IN ALL AREAS OF PUBLIC SERVICE ARE OVER.
WE NEED SERVICE, RESPECT, FAIRNESS AND RULE OF LAW. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE REFUSING TO BE DISRESPECTED.
Massage to Autorec
ReplyDeleteMbona nyie mnatumia nguvu nyingi kusuluhisha tatizo dogo sana. Kama nyie ndiyo waingizaji wa hayo magari na mnajua kabisa kua maafisa wa customs wanasoma mwaka uliondikwa katika seatbelts, kwanini msibadili hiyo mikanda kabla ya kutoka huko Japan?
Onyo: Msitumie njia hii kuwadanganya wateja wenu.
Kuweni wabunifu jamani......
Mdau, Jeremani
I % agree with Pope's idea (above), that just conduct a workshop/seminar/dialogue... with those parties. Think....
ReplyDeleteMtoa mada na wachangiaji wengine mnaboa sana. Ingawa wapo maofisa wa TRA wanaokula rushwa lakini siyo kila mtu anaeagiza gari anaombwa rushwa. Tatizo wabongo mnaagiza magari yaliyotupwa dampo ambayo yameoza,mnayakarabati halafu mnafoji document ili muyaingize haya magari ili mtutie umasikini watanzania wenzenu na ninyi kupata utajiri, huu ni utapeli wa hali ya juu na haukubaliki. Pia kumbukeni ninyi ndiyo wa kwanza kulalamikia uchafuzu wa hewa, ina maana hamjui hayo magari mabovu mnayoagiza ndiyo chanzo kikubwa cha carbon dioxide (green house effect).
ReplyDeleteAcheni kulalamika kila siku, tangulizeni uzalendo mbele na acheni kupenda utajiri kwa kuja kuharibu mazingira yetu na kutupa umasikini kwa kutuuzia magari yaliyooza. Ujumbe umefika
kwapale uk kuna test(MOT)kila mwaka gari lazima ifanyiwe ili kuona kama inastahili kuwa barabarani na ina timiza viwango vyao vyote sasa tanzania turuhusu magari yote ya kila umri ila kila mwaka tuwe tunakagua kwa kiwango cha juu kuona kama linafaha kuwa barabarani au la kwenda kurecyl.Ila swala kama hili serikali inachukua muda kuwaza na kuona kilio cha wananchi maana wenyewe wanatembelea magari mapya tupu na yale ya serikali yakifika umri wa kuuza wana nunua wenyewe sasa mimi mlala hoi nikanunue nini?/ndio hapo ninapokula rushwa na mimi nipate ka vouge ka 07 ili tutese na wakina kinje,ridhwani na mitoto ya mafisadi.kwa mtaji huu ngoja uje uchaguzi yaje ya kenya bongo na akili itatukaa sawa maana tumechoka na kuturichmond kila siku
ReplyDeletemtoto wa kikwete ana BMW x5
ReplyDeleteMtoto wa Lowassa ana Range Rover
Mtoto wa karamaghi ana Bentley
Mtoto wa mkono ana Merc CLk
Mtoto wa Bakharesa ana Lamborghini
Mtoto wa mlala hoi???corolla ya 1982
Kwa mtaji huu watasema mwisho miaka mitano tu si yapo bongo hapa magari hayo ila wachache wanaweza kuwa nayo ktk million39 watu.kidumu chama cha mafisadi
kuna watu wanapenda magari ya zamani kwa kuwa yanawakumbusha mambo mengi sana ila ukitaka hilo gari ni kosa la jinai unaambiwa unataka kuja kulitupa bongo sasa hii inakuwaje wakati gari nimenunua wewe unasema nakuja kutupa??
ReplyDeletekwa mtaji huu tunasubiri odinga wa tz azaliwe na moto uwake maana wanatudatisha hawa,hakuna cha hali wala kasi mpya ni mafisadi wakubwa hawa
Hawa TRA hawana njia nyingine ya kipata hiyo kodi na ni lizama wafikie malengo yao hivyo lazima watafute visababu vya kuwaibia hizo pesa! Ukusanyaji wa kodi za ndani umeshindikana kwani wote wezi
ReplyDelete*Wahindi wanakaa na vitabu viwili viwili madukani
*Watu wanamabilioni bank hawaulizwi kodi wamelipa kiasi gani na kwa biashara gani
*Hata Richard Mondo akiulizwa alilipa kiasi gani kwa cha kodi kwa pesa aliyolipwa na T/sco hajui
*Watu wanaleta Hammer/R.Sport/Audi1/4 Wanasamehewa kodi eti za mainvesta
Sasa wito hapo wote wezi kama huwezi kuiba kaa na hao watu mbali usilalamike kwani hata mambo ya BOT na Richmond yalivyoanza bungeni Bwana six alisema bunge haliamini habari za kimtandaoni anataka uthibitisho.
Wabongo pigeni moyo konde hatuko mbali sana na kuchapana wenyewe maana hali ni mbaya Mafisadi wamecharuka na nyie gombanieni ugali kwenye bakuli hilohilo ama sivyo mtalala njaa Adios!!!!
Kwanza nawashangaa watu walioandika Kiingereza kibovu, kama huu wa kwanza, lakini eti kuponda Kiingereza cha mtoa mada. Hii ni lugha ni tatizo kwetu na lawama anastahili Nyerere aliyevunjavunja elimu yetu, ingawa kukifanya Kiswahili kuwa lugha ya taifa haikuwa kosa.
ReplyDeletePili ni aibu kwamba tuna watu wanaokubali kwamba matatizo ya nchi ama hayatatuliki au yaongezewe mengine juu yake kama rushwa. Mataifa yote duniani hupitia hali kama hizi, lakini tofauti yao na sisi ni kwamba, wao hutumia akili na sisi hukumbatia ujinga.
Ni mbaya zaidi ni kwamba baadhi yetu tunaishia kuwa wivu na kufikiri kila mtu ni mwizi. Hii si sahihi, kuna watu wanaopenda kufanya mambo kwa kufuata haki na taratibu, wako sahihi na hawapaswi kutukanwa.
Halafu, mbali ya kukupongeza Masao kwa kufunua jambo hili ingawa kwa shida ya lugha, naamini ulitaka wasiojua Kiswahili nao wachangie, kama huyo Mjapani alivyofanya hapo, napenda niwapongeze waliotoa mawazo mazuri, kisha niilaani TRA na wahusika wengine kwa upumbavu wao.
Ni aibu kwamba katika dunia ya leo Kamishna mzima anaweza kufanya uchunguzi kwa kumuuliza mshindani wa mlalamikaji. Kwamba eti ofisa wa TRA anafanya uamuzi kwa kuangalia bei huria kwenye Intaneti, ina maana hawajui hata wanachoangalia ni nini!
Namsikitikia sana mchangiaji aliyejikuta akilipa mamilioni kibao kwa kutafuta haki yake. Aliumia sana ila alipaswa kuishitaki Toyota ya Japan kwanza, na anapaswa kufanya hivyo hata hii leo ili apate haki zake. Ni mbaya sana kuona kwamba TRA walifanya uhuni wa kumumiza namna hiyo, hii si haki hata kidogo. Huu ni unyama na hatutaendela kwa mtaji huu.
Tanzania tutabaki maskini hivyo hivyo. Ni kweli kwamba nchi inahitaji kudhibiti magari ya zamani kuingia, lakini utaratibu mzuri unapaswa kufuatwa, huwezi kukataa kila nyaraka halafu ukakagua vipuri na kufanya maamuzi, hii ni miujiza. Swali: Hivi ukijenga nyumba leo mwaka 2008, utatumia kila kitu kilichotengenezwa mwaka 2008?
JAMANI NCHI YETU INAHITAJI KUACHANA NA UJINGA. HUU NI UJINGA TU, SI RUSHWA PEKEE.
Another confusion!!I do believe that the education system of Tanzania needs the immense overhauling, why? Undeniably, most students are the product of creaming and think that they are clever, ha ha ha ha!!!.Bwana nashangaa hata Comissioner jinsi upeo wake wa kufikiri umeishia kwenye Ujama , uhuru na kazi,hivi akihudhuria makongamana ya nje anachangia nini!
ReplyDeleteKuhusiana na kesi ya Moshi,si amini kama wakala wa serikali wanaweza kutuma zaidi ya watu 4 kushughulikia kesi moja, where is VFM, Value for money.Hiyo kesi na majaji wake nadhani walikuwa wanapendelea maamuzi.
Cha maana ni kwamba je sheria iliyopitishwa ilisemaje kuhusiana na gari, ni mwaka lilitengenezwa ama mwaka vitu vyake vilivyotengenezwa.
Since under the World Class Manufacturing (WCN) industry, things have changed completely, outsourcing has been enormously existing.Kwa hiyo parts zinatengenezwa na kampuni mbalimbali na assembly inafanywa na kampuni husika. Eg Ujerumani wana mfumo wa Completely Knock Down) CKD logistics, magari aina ya benzi na BMW amabyo hutengenezwa South Africa, parts zake hupelekwa ujerumani kwa vipande vipande, je kwa sheria hiyo gari likitengenezwa RSA mwaka mmoja na nusu baada ya kuwasilishwa vipande vyote,Gari hilo litahesabika ni la mwaka upi?
Na kama gari nit oleo la mwaka 2006, lakini taa, mikanda na makaperti ni matengenezo ya mwaka 2003, gari hili litasemekana limetengenezwa mwaka 2003?
Guys! We need to develop a critical thinking skills in our education system, looking in a big picture then think widely with diversity of options.Siyo, kila siku 1+1=2, it can be 1 as well or 0.
Dr. Confusion
Jamani tofautisheni antique cars na vinatage cars...vintage ni slang language ya muozo. Sasa kama una hela ya kuingiza antique car nadhani kulipa ushuru extra haitakua shida. lakini kama umeenda ukaokota junk lako halafu unataka kuliingiza bongo ndio hivyo hutaki kulipa hela zaidi.
ReplyDeleteNi kweli magari ya miaka ya nyuma yana market lakini yawe yametunzwa vizuri na mengine yana miaka hata 30 ...
unadanganya watu na muozo wako unabandikiza belt za magari ya zamani. kama wewe ni mfanya biashara jaribu kubadili kila unachokiona cha zamani . Sio kuwaibia watu hapa
msiingize miozo bongo kwa vile body ni mpya lakini kila part ni za zamani
Acheni kulalamika na muwatreat watu vizuri sio kuwaibia.
Kwanza wewe ni mmbantu halafu unajidai kuandika kingereza. Kama unafanya biashara na wabongo jifunze kiswahili. Usije ukawaibia walala hoi wanaokusanya vihela vyao kuja kununua gari kumbe unaweka party za zamanai.
Na kwa vile kenya wanafanya hivyo sio lazima na sisi yufanye. Nchi yetu inacontrol junkies.......Peleka biashara yako KENYA .....
last December i imported 1998 Suzuki Jimmy, FOB price was 4000USD, they say no should be 5000USD plus 20% penalty charge they say it is above 10-year-old. i end paying tatol 9,000USD for a car worth of 2500USD.
ReplyDelete1998 Galant Fob price was 2200USD they say no should be 3300USD plus 20% of age of vehicle. i end paying tatol of 6500USD for a car worth of 1000USD.
1999 Glandis chariot FOB price was 3000USD they say no it should be 7000USD. i pay total 9,500USD for a vehicle of worth 1500USD.
all vehicle been checked by Jaai and confirm the actual price, none of my vehicle was more value than what i bought, am sure every importer pay 250USD in japan for JAAI, still they don't agree with JAAI.
i payed 20% extra for vihicle that turn the tenth year into their hands!, while the gavoment made clear that i should pay exra 20% above 10yrs old
i have been riped out! by crue and uneducated revenue officers, that cant count 0ne up to ten, why the goverment keep holding office in office withought knowledge of the office. or is this all about giving job shemeji.... and and fire Dr mwakyembe!
my point is where the money goes!! ....
Unajua serikali yetu imejaa watu wasiokuwa na akili sio kwamba hawakusoma no walisoma na wakakalili walichosomeshwa kwa ajili ya mtiani na wakafaulu kujibu maswali sema akili wanayokosa hile ya kuweza kuchambua mambo na kuyaangalia kwa undani. Tuna viongozi wachache sana wenye akili.tatizo la mtanzania sio kwamba hataki kununua gari la mwaka 98 au 2000 au 2007 tatizo ni kwamba tunanunua gari ambalo linaendana na kipato chetu tunachotolea jasho.kunatofauti kubwa sana kati ya fisadi na mchapa kazi.fisadi hana huruma na hela yake kwani ni ya wizi na mchapa kazi ana huruma na hela yake kwani kaitolea jasho.sasa wadau wenzangu ambao wanaropoka tu na kumpinga huyu mtu aliyeleta hoja hii pia upeo wao ni mdogo wa kuelewa.kitu rahisi wacha magari yote yaingie sema kuwe matawi ambayo watu wamefundishwa kulikwagua gari kila kitengo kama lipo salama kwa kutumia.acheni hizi sheria zenu za kitoto kama mna akili finyu.
ReplyDeletehilo sio la kushangaza bongo ni jambo la kawaida tu, tena nawaambia huo mwaka si bora ulivyokuwa kwenye seat belt..? na kwambia jamaa wanavyojua kukusanya mapato haramu hata hiyo gari ingekuja na stika ya kubandikia bima yenye mwaka 1995 wangekwambia ndio mwaka wa kutengenezea gari, hawa jamaa sijui vipi kwa vyovyote ni waukae wenzangu.
ReplyDeleteFirstly most of the responses are just plain stupid here. My fellow Tanzanians some of you are just too complacent and happy with getting oppressed and denied your right. Ndio mana hata umeme ukikatwa hamlalamiki, mnaona poa tu.
ReplyDeleteBwana Masao is trying to educate us on a very real problem here. Firstly I believe that most of the customs officers ni washamba. It is is not about corruption it is about lack of exposure and unwilling to be exposed. How can you determine the age of the vehicle from the various parts of a vehicle like the seat belts! Secondly as for the commissioner, he is jut totally incompetent, I know him so trust me. How the hell can you approach a competitor , (DT Dobie ) for information on Autorec Vehicles. This guy is a total idiot and I am sorry that my taxes are paying for his salary.
I think Bwana Pope has said it well along with Mushi. Stakeholders have to get together and enlighten these ignorant people called TRA.
As for the guy on this post who is talking about 13 year old seat belts, please stop being so ignorant, year of manufacture does not mean that is when they were first used, so the seat belts will only have been used when the car was first on the road and not a day before.
As for the guy who was taken to court by TRA you can have that decision reversed because there is plenty of evidence showing that you are right and they are wrong, manake huyo judge pia ni mshamba mwingine.
So in conclusion know your rights, TRA also took me to court once, I won and they ended up paying Tshs 35 million in damages plus costs.
Uncle J
TATIZO LA TANZANIA NI SYSTEM NA SIO WATU WALA VIONGOZI.KAMA TUKIWA NA SYSTEM NZURI BASI HAPA KILA KITU KINA KUWA POA.ILA VIONGOZI WALIOPO AWAKUBALI KUBADILI KWA AJILI YA MASLAHI YAO NA KULINDANA NA MFNO MZURI ANGALIENI MITOTO YA WAKUBWA WALIO JAA PALE BOT BILA KUFUATA KIWANGO NA ELIMU YAO ILI MLADI NI MITOTO YA MAFISADI.NA TRA NI HIVYO HIVYO COMMISIONER ANAFUATA AMRI YA BOSS BILA KUTUMIA AKILI YAKE.UKIJA KWA TRAFFIC WANACHUKUA PESA NA JIONI WANAGAWANA NA BOSS SASA SYSTEM HAPA NDIO TATIZO.PAPER WORKS NYINGI NA KWA WATU WASIO TUMIA AKILI HATA MOJA ILA WANAFUATA AMRI YA BOSS.
ReplyDeleteKWA MTAJI HUU TUTAUMIA TU WATANZANIA WENZANGU MPAKA SYSTEM ITAKAPO CHANGE NA TUKIWA WAPOLE KAMA TULIVYO HAIWEZI CHANGE NA TUKIWA WAKALI KAMA WAKINA ODINGA HALI ITACHANGE TENA KWA HARAKA NA HAKI ITAKUWEPO KWA KILA MTU.
Mr Masao, he is not stupid at all, I can’t believe some Idiot typical Tanzanian with monkey style, ignore nastily Mr.Masao grammar, even his clear and fact message that block many people heart. He is showing us, that you don’t need to be educated person to fight for what you deserve to have, fact is Japanese people know much about cars than you uneducated annoying monkey!
ReplyDeleteThe idea behind is we need to change! And it is the time to change. Am not enjoying seeing my shemeji push cart on Tanzanian high way while there is a way to improve his life style.
I suggest Tanzania Govement need to let Tanzanian to import a lot of vehicle as much as they can for just little tax, and then Tax those vehicle yearly.
This will stimulate and stable rise our economy and push further road construction; people will be able to see reason to pay property tax, therefore won’t be so many pain complain to pay tax yearly.
Look this simple formula:
Nyerere kick out British, lami ikabaki Uhindini tu, and left big gap between poor and rich
Mwinyi open free market, watoto wakavaa ndala kwenda shuleni from china. Mwakabagila akamalizia kibanda chake, tukaanza kuvaa suruali na viatu na soksi.
Mkapa kajitahidi sana kuimalisha uchumi na barabara na shule.
Kikwete, advatise Tanzania very well, even president Bush agree to stay bongo for 4 days!
Trying to bring back middle class, and decrease big gap between poor and rich.
The uneducated offices get waste his dream dayly!!!
Change please!!!!
Ohio, USA
It is very sad to see that some Tanzanians seem to think it is okay for them to be mistreated and ripped off!!!
ReplyDeleteas the saying goes.....
GIVE THEM THE LONGEST ROPE, AND THEY'LL HANG THEMSELVES!!!!
MOST IMPORTANT MY FELLOW TANZANIANS AT DIASPORA:
ReplyDeleteLET'S WORK TOGETHER AND LIBERATE OUR MOTHERLAND TANZANIA. WE HAVE 99.99% DUM DECISION MAKERS WITH ZERO EXPOSURE IN OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS AN UNDESPUTED FACT!
HOW DO WE LIBARATE OUR COUNTRY?
1.DEVELOP THE HABIT OF GENERAL LEARNING (GENERAL KNOWLEDGE)AT GLOBAL PASPECTIVE.
2.TEACH OUR CHILDEN THE DYNAMIC WAY OF THINKING THROUGH GLOBAL KNOWLEDGE.
3.LEARN TO BE HONEST AND SERVE EACH OTHER IN A HUMANE MANNER.
4.LEARN TO BE A LEADER/SERVANT OF OTHERS AND NOT A BOSS AND CORRUPT PERSON.
5.FINALLY SPEAK OUT!.REMEMBER LEADERS ARE OUR EMPLOYEES/SERVANTS AND NOT OUR BOSSES OR KINGS/ QUEENS.PEOPLES POWER IS A LAST RESORT.WE EMPLOYED THEM AND WE CAN FIRE THEM TOO. (CONTITUTION RIGHTS)
WE ARE IN THE INTENSIVE PREPARATIONS TO REMOVE AND CLEANSE THE DARKNESS CLOUD OF CORRUPT GENERATION BY BOTH MEANS ( SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL). JOIN THE CALL AND PLAY YOUR ROLL WHEREVER YOU ARE BY CLEANSING YOURSELF FIRST AND THEN OTHERS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THANK YOU!
MTANZANIA-GLOBAL VILLAGE
hiyo mbona ni kawaida kwa bongo, mwaka 2002 nituma kagari ka kawaida tu baada ya kukaa uk miaka kama 3 na risiti yangu nilikuwa nayo, nilipoingia kwa bwana masharubu(tra) wakasema wana uplift wakaja na bei yao wanayoijua wao, ikabidi nitoe ushuru mkubwa sana , kiliniudhi ni ofisa mmoja wa tra kugoma kuwa sikutoka uk sababu sikuwa na exit stamp ya uk kutoka uk, na hakutaka kuelewa kuwa ukitoka uk huwa hugongewi stamp yoyote ya exit enzi hizo, yaani alinichefua mpaka basi, hao maofisa ni kweli wamesoma, kukariri hawana exposure na ni wajinga kuliko! bongo kuwa tambarare ni joke! bado sana
ReplyDeleteJaribuni vilevile kuwasiliana na wabunge wenu muwaeleze kama kilichotokea hapa maana wao wana uwezo wa kuwasiliana na hao commisioner moja kwa moja na kupewa maelezo yanayoeleweka,simu zao zinapatikana kwenye site ya bunge
ReplyDeletewell lets not attack Maso for his language, it is not his mother tongue. The context of his message is more important ie the unwaranted uplifting of price?value of the imports. I read once,in defence of uplifting by a customs official, that taxation of imports is not based on the invoice. As far as they are concerned the invoice is just an indicative price and not the value of the item. If there is anyone out there who knows at least the basis for uplifting the invoice price enlighten me/us. As for the seat belt manufacture year to be an indicator of the age of the car, may be TRA could be right. it does not click in my mind that a Japanese car manufacturer or for that matter the seatbelt supplier to keep inventory for so long in his warehouse, it will be against manufacturing economics and the just in time phlosophy as practiced by most manufacturers especially the car industry.
ReplyDeleteFrom personal experience I have bought three cars in a span of ten years and the seatbelt year and the manufacturers year are matching, is it a coincidence?