mr. michuzi,
I thinking you of giving us the chance to discuss the
economy and development of our country in your esteemed blog.i also
thank president honorable Dr. jakaya mrisho kikwete for leading us to
development in seven years of good leadership. I also thank everybody
of being of being honesty to our blog of jamii.
I have been following
very close debates of economy development in social media especially
between experts and leaders especially between zitto kabwe, john Mashaka
and prof. sospeter muhongo.
So, I will start the debate by challenge honorable zitto kabwe and
honorable john Mashaka and prof. sospter muhongo to be honest
in economy of this country. Honorable kabwe talk and talks without any
economy data he is seeking praised and attention from the people and
dot know much about economy. He cnnot know everything than everybody
in the government.
He is not honest on what he wants from natural gas
and mineral. People believe honorable zitto is fighting his stomach
not Tanzania people. you don’t know if zitto is for CDM or is for
CCM because he is dictator.
He is different from policy of chadema.
Because he defence the suspicious activieties in Tanzania, gas in mtwara
and mining of all mineral. And zitto is very rich, and why because MP
salary cannot buy hummer and Vogue how is he get the money? how
Honorable jonh Mashaka is not honest because he work at with invesntment
banks in the wallstreet USA.
John Mashaka is part of problem in global
economics of 2008, and cannot advice the country how to work on the
economy because he looking for political job like minister of economic,
and when he become minister, I move to Somalia to live with Al-shbaab.
Somalia will be good that living with Tanzania and Mashaka as minister
of economy. Mashaka is not honest because he says contracts must be
understood, and our lawyers understand the contaracts, and the problem
is politicians and corruption.
TAKUKURU is investigating and president
Dr. Kikwete trust all of the people in investigation will go to prison
like maranda of EPA. So Mashaka must stop to criticize the contracts
and zitto. If he thinking is cleverer he must come home and stand with
dr. slaa and mtikila who is going to court everyday to defend democracy
of this country
PROF. muhongo to continue to write new contract and make sure the
Chinese are not lying of the permits of class A and start mining in
game reserves. That is dangerous for our country safety and security.
Even when you go to kariakoo they sell everything without permit because
the contrats they created is not good and will not stop it. And that
will make Chinese stop visa to Tanzania business. Must be like john
magufuri to be the best minister of energy and minerals
Kibonde- UDOM University
THE ENGLISH IS BAD. I HOPE THIS IS A FIRST YEAR STUDENT, OTHERWISE WE AS A NATION ARE IN TROUBLE
ReplyDeleteTHE ENGLISH IS BAD
ReplyDeleteDah Mshkaji Kibonde bora ungetumia Kiswahili tukaelewa sote.
ReplyDeleteMaana hicho kiengereza cha UDOM mi sijakielewa sana.
Ila umeleta point nzuri, wacha tuskilize mabingwa wanasemaje
Poor english! we can not understand what are you trying to say.
ReplyDeleteDuh Hiii kaaazikwelikweli Kibondez wa UDOM....
ReplyDeleteGOD BLESS TANZANIA. WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? KIBONDE YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE
ReplyDeleteNd Kibonde ingekuwa bora ungetumia Kiswahili hoja zako zingeeleweka vizuri zaidi, hapa umetumia lugha ya 'watu' umeonekana kama mmachinga tu 'u know..u know...! maana kiwango cha Kiingereza ulichokitumia sio ya mtu wa Chuo Kikuu ..natoa wito mkitaka kujadili mada muhimu kama hii ya Nishati, Maji na Madini bora mara elfu itumike lugha yetu..ya Kiswahili hii lugha ya kuombea misaada, na kuogombea Shahada za Umzili na Uzamivu..kuna mahala pake..! Huu mchango wa Kibonde umehatia maji mjadala mzima japo mimi naungana na Nd Mashaka tumpe nafasi Profesa Muhongo afanye vitu vyake..! M.Maez -TRL Makao Makuu Dar. Septemba 27, 2012
ReplyDeleteHellow Kibonde from UDOM University. I don't know whether you clearly knew what you wanted to say, is it probably of language barrier? In Tanzania we have two formal languages i.e Kiswahili and English so feel free to use either that is convenient to you.
ReplyDeleteSecond point you did not get enough time to review your comments prior sending them to the blog, i would urge you to read your writings before you send them anywhere. or you could have shared with your friends to correct some of the things before posting them
Lastly, you have talked about evidence not being produced by Zitto and Mashaka or Muhongo. in your posting you have not produce any evidence to back up your story except for Mh. Zitto Kabwe owning a hammer.
Kikristo (English) can distort some of the meaning in the words if not careful used. But i must say you will be the best if you will continue to have guts to write and argue my advice to you is don't get discouraged with and bad comments given to you, take them as a challenge and a learning ground
All the best
I am sorry in advance in case i sound cynical. I would like to know which course is this Kibonde (perfect name for him/her!!) pursuing and in which year at UDOM. Why did he not opt to write in Kiswahili (I doubt if it could have been any better!). This Kibonde is the true evidence of bigger problems we have in this country. A University student (I hope S/he is not a lecturer) who cannot complete a single paragraph in proper English???? Where are we heading? How do we expect this breed of graduates to formulate policies that make sense in future, if they can't even express themselves? And note that I don't even want to comment of the reasoning capacity which is far below my 5-year-old daughter's! Tanzania tumekwisha! And this is the person to take on Zitto in debating matters of national importance, really????
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ReplyDeleteYou had better write in Kiswahili, what a shallow grammar.
You seem to have something personal with Hon. Zitto.
I would not say much about individuals but Zitto does his homeworks well.
Are you really in University? If so, then we still have a big problem. Your English is primary school debate level.
It is YOU who needs to be analyzed.
Mr Kidonde...in My opinion i think you are too subjective...you have said Hr Zitto did not present any economical datas...and you are challenging these people..without presenting actual data...for a long time our country have been in very bad economic situation...and i can definitely see..we not doing any better to get off the situation...for the past few years back we didn't even had a say...no body could question or say something about this issues...atleast Mr Zitto and other people are trying to say something about the situation we have...which we used to be told...we are doing better...to me it doesn't matter if mr zitto and other guys present actua data or say something about our economic problems...as long as they are talking about something does exist..it is much better..MR Kibonde i hope next time you will challange these guys by means of solving the problem and not attacking other people opinions without facts...you will be more objective....and not based on political issue...but based on the real economic problem which our country faces for along run to come.
ReplyDeleteKibonde, are you really a University Student? It is very difficult to follow what you want to present, given your English. You probably have a good story, why don't you present it in Kiswahili?
ReplyDeleteMkuu Kibonde,
ReplyDeleteSi ungeandika kiswahili tu! - ungeeleweka vizuri kuliko kung'ang'ania kuandika Kingereza ambacho nacho kina makosa.
Kibondo pls use the language that everyone will understand, If you speak swahili will be better to use it. According to what you have written... you are just blaming ppl, we need your views on the issue not accusations. Tanzanians we must grow on dialogues.
ReplyDeleteBwana Kibonde..
ReplyDeletepole sana.tumia kiswahili, itakuwa bora. umeandika kiingereza mkorogo..halafu ukwaweka UNiversity of Dodoma..
japo sikubaliani na wale wanaosema watu watumia kiswahili kwa mawasiliano, hilo nasema ni uamuzi wa mwandishi kulingana na hadhara yake anayotaka kufikia, ila kwakow wewe kutumia kiingereza imekudhalilisha kwa sababu kwa kariba yako(university) unategemewa kuandika kiingereza fasaha, na kama kimekukamata, andika kiswahili fasaha.
Nimesoma haya ya kwanza nikachefuka..
Omuburi
ahsante kwa maoni mdau. ila if this is a uni student,still wondering! i think ni afadhali ungeandika kwa kiswahili tu, watu tungekuelewa vizuri.
ReplyDeleteMawazo mazuri, sema kimombo kimekuchenga
ReplyDeleteVery poor English indeed.
ReplyDeleteKwanza jaribu kutafuta mwalimu akusaidie kwenye somo la lugha ya kigeni uliyoamua kuitumia. Ukishafahamu matumizi yake rudi kuja kuandika hoja zako kwa lugha fasaha. Laa sivyo itakuwa Bora kama utatumia kiswahili.
ReplyDeleteHi I supposed you have criticised all and never come with a solution. Governance is not an easy task as most think, it needs a courage to take turf decisition at a right time and right place. The world it self is not just as you tend to think, until the moral aspect far from material life restored, the solution is far to be reached and will remains as a dream for many.
ReplyDeleteWell said Kibonde of UDOM !
ReplyDeleteLet John Mashaka leave Bank job in the US and come back to work in Tanzanian banks and economy.
Let Hon. ZK change his attitude of personal interets and Political interests.
Ndugu naona umejaribu kutuonyesha kuwa bado uko nyuma sana kifikra.Jitahidi uandike hata kwa kiswahili labda utaeleweka maana ulichokiandika kinatia kichefuchefu.je ulisoma kwanza kabla ya kupost?ulifanya utafiti na uthibitisho wa hayo madai yako unayo?
ReplyDeleteKiswahili lugha yangu Nakipenda!!
Ningekuwa na uwezo wa ku-delete post hii imgekuwa moja wapo!.. Nonesense!!
ReplyDeleteBora hata usingejitambulisha unatoka wapi. Yaani msomi mzima wa University of Dodoma unaandika kizungu kibovu namna hiyo? Ungeandika kwa kiswahili basi kuliko kujidhalilisha.
ReplyDeleteWewe Kibonde kweli uko UDOM wewe? Siku nyingine tafadhali andika makala yako kwa kiswahili..hii tabia ya kutafsiri sentensi za kiswahili kuwa kiingereza ni hatari sana..hivi hujui kama umeandika maajabu yasiyoeleweka? Huko UDOM wewe ni mwalimu au mwanafunzi? Hatari sana kama wasomi wetu ndio mambo yenyewe haya.. usijishushie hadhi yako,bora uandike kwa kiswahili..kidhungu waachie wanaokijua au jitahidi kujifunza zaidi
ReplyDeleteHovyoooo!
ReplyDeleteWewe Kibonde endelea na bongo flava zako huko UDOM. Usifungue mdomo wako kusema kiingereza maana unaabisha vyuo vikuu vya Tanzania. Makala yako sikuisoma sababu hata kichwa cha habari chenyewe makengeza: Hatusemi "Respond to...." tunasema "Reponse to..."Sasa mimi kama mwajiri nikimchukua Mkenya aniandikie taarifa za kikazi vizuri ninyi mtaanza kulalama wakati kwa lugha hii kazi za kisasa na za kiushindani wewe hutaweza...
ReplyDeleteKibonde wa UDOMM,
ReplyDeleteUtakuwa ni Kibonde kiukweli kweli hata katika masomo yako hapo Chuo Kiuuu dodoma kutokana na English yako mbovu inayo lalamikiwa na wengi ktk maoni yaliyo tangulia karibu yote 26 hapo juu!
Au unatafuta umaarufu?
Mwandishi ametumia jina lake. Ni mdogo wake na "Kibonde" yule wa Clouds Media.
ReplyDeleteMdau UDOM
noana wote mumecomment tu kuhusu lugha iliyotumika, but that is exactly we are facing, and that could be the reasons that we have bad contracts cause not all the ministers,goverment officers who are responsible for the contracts do know exactly what is in the contracts....its a shame but that is what it is...we say our language of nation is swahili but all our laws are written in english....
ReplyDeleteUsiwaseme wenzako bila hoja za msingi!
ReplyDeleteWewe Kibonde si ndio unayetafuta umaarufu kwa njia rahisi?
@ Kibonde, I salute your confidence, determination and indefatigability in making sure that you deliver the message,albeit in a not well polished English, don`t give up posting your ideas IN ENGLISH, "Practice makes perfect" well done Kibonde.
ReplyDeleteKweli Kibonde kama jina lake!
ReplyDeleteDon't care about his English, what we can see in the delivery report of our mobile phone are the words...MESSAGE SENT!
ReplyDeleteWHAT MESSAGE? MSIDANGANYE WATU HAPA HAELEWEKI NA AENDE ENGLISH COURSE. NYIE MNAODAI MNAELEWA NDIO MNAOMRUDISHA NYUMA. AANDIKE KISWAHILI HUKU AKIJIFUNZA ENGLISH, FULL STOP. KUNA MESEJI GANI HAPA?
ReplyDeleteKWELI SISI NI WATUMWA....KATIKA VYOOOTE NA MAONI YOOTE MMEANDIKA KUKOSOA LUGHA!? WATUMWA WA WATUMWA WATUMWA...WATANZANIA MMEJAA ULIMBUKENI, UNAFIKI NA UJUAJI. UKITAKA KUKOSOA KOSOA MAANA YA ULICHOKIELEWA SIO NAMNA YA ULIVYO ELEWESHWA...PAMBAF
ReplyDeleteMore than 95% are only interested in his english! That is nguvu ya umma!
ReplyDeletePole sana ndugu Kibondwe..eeh sorry kibondwa.....or is it kibongwe?aaaaaaghh,basi naishia hapo hapo!naona na mimi nina tatizo kama lako!
ReplyDeleteMi naona hamna haja ya kumkosoa aliyetoa mawazo.
ReplyDeleteKama hamuelewi si muache kuchangia.
Watanzania tuache kupondana mbona kuna weupe kibao hawajuwi kiingereza na tunawaita wasomi?Lugha na usomi vinaingilianaje?
Nini maana ya usomi? ni kujuwa kiingereza ndiyo usomi?
Kusoma chuo kikuu na kutojuwa kiingereza ni vitu viwili tofauti.
Tena inabidi tuwaheshimu sana hao vijana wetu wanaochipukia wanaonyesha wanaelimika kwa vitendo zaidi ya maneno.
Kwanza si mnafiki ndiyo maana ameweka jina lake hapo.
Na amesaidia kunyesha Watanzania tunaupeo gani ndiyo maana ametumia kiingereza kibovu ili tupate hoja za hofu na vitisho vya kubaguwana kielimu na dharau za Mkoloni.
Mtanzania mpenda nchi yake lugha yake kuu si kiingereza.Lugha ya mtanzania ni ile ya asili yake na inayozungumzwa na watanzania wengi.
English:
ReplyDeleteMoja ya majukumu ya uwepo wa Ubalozi wa Uingereza hapa Tanzania ni kuendesha Mafunzo wa Lugha ya Kiingereza ktk BRITISH COUNCIL.
Hivyo, ni jukumu lake Kibonde awapo Likizo Dar apitie British Council ili ku polish Kiingereza chake!
Bandugu ninyi mnaolalamikia English yake ndio msiofahamu English!
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ENGLISH LANGUAGE: Consists of,
1.READING AND SPEAKING
2.WRITING
3.LISTERNING AND UNDERSTANDING
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Sasa ninyi mnaolalamika ndio uwezo wenu wa kuelewa Lugha ya Kiingereza kwa misingi hiyo mitatu (3) hapo juu ndio uwezo wenu upo chini kama yeye ni KIBONDE basi mnaolalamika ndio kabisaaa VILAZA a.k.a VIHIYO !
Hongera Kibonde kwa kujaribu. Usikwazike na maoni hasi hapo juu. Maoni hasi ndiyo yametufikisha hapa, wengi wetu hatuna ujasiri wa kuongea kiingereza kwa kuogopa kubezwa.
ReplyDeleteWengi wa hao waliokubeza nao wana makosa mengi ... mfano turf decisition, datas, nk.
Jitahidi kuandika, nakuahidi mafanikio pindi umalizapo hapo UDOM.
Ignorant,
EU
VIHIYO NA VILAZA WANAMTETEA KIBONDE NA KIINGEREZA CHA UGOKO. POLENI. NAJUA NI UBISHI WA WASOMI WETU WA BONGO AKIONGEA MANENO MACHACHE ANADHANI NDIO ANAONGEA LUGHA. HALAFU TUKIKOSA KAZI ZA EAST AFRICA COOPERATION TUNALALAMIKA. KISWAHILI NI LUGHA YA TAIFA. LAKINI UKIFIKA CHUO KIINGEREZA NI LAZIMA. LUGHA YA KUFUNDISHIA KOZI ZOTE EXCEPT KISWAHILI NA FRENCH NI KIINGEREZA. MSIJIITE WASOMI KAMA HAMUONGEI KIINGEREZA. CHUO MLISOMAJE?
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ReplyDeleteMdau wa 28th 10:45:00 AM
Hakuna maana pale!!! Haeleweki! Kama WEWE umemuelewa, hebu tufahamishe.
WOTE mnaomtetea huyu na nyie mmegeuza viatu pia.
Nyinyi wasomi mnaosingizia kuongea Kiingereza ndiyo mnakili sana mjuwe mnamatatizo makubwa sana kwa siku chache zijazo.
ReplyDeleteMwacheni dogo akosoe wasomi .
Huu ni ugandamizaji wa kijinsia kumkosoa kwa kumdharau mtu kwa kukosea lugha ambayo si yake.
Wanasiasa feki :) elimu si maneno ni utendaji.
Dogo fanya mabo kwa vitendo achana nao hawa wanaojiita wasomi wa kiingereza waone kama wataweza kuwadanganya Watanzania kwenye miaka michache ijayo kama wanavyofanya sasa.
Hawa ndiyo wale wanaowaita mafundi nyumba si wasomi wakati wanawatengenezea nyumba bora na wao wamekaa kupiga gumzo.
Tafsirini elimu sahihi nyinyi wasomi wa Kiingereza.
Sikuhizi watu wanaongea mpaka Kilatini nini Kiingereza.
Guys its tym now we need 2focus on issues tht matters...evryone is talkin abt his grammatical errors whch 2me they dnt matter...wht matters is tht he has communicated...coz ths is jst a public forum 4discussin issues n nt correcting grammer....even in swahili we do use street language in communicating....grow up ppl....
ReplyDeleteKudos to Kibonde for his bravery in utilizing a language that he had to learn and possibly (at some point in his school years)under instructors who also struggle to articulate it; there is a reason why the government is contemplating changing the medium of instruction to Kiswahili from primary school to University. We can criticize and pretend that we do not understand what he is saying (which I highly doubt is true), or exercise tolerance and move on to debate issues.
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