Invitation to an Open Debate with John Mashaka
(By US Blogger)
I challenged your article on 3 main criteria
1-Your arguments were based on information that is clearly non-factual and irrelevant to the key message even on very obvious pieces of information that anyone with internet access can research on . To me that is equivalent to taking unfair advantage of people who want to believe in you.
2-I did not see any ‘added value’ in your article in the context of what Tanzania is doing and where it is headed.
3-All I saw was demands for the Government to do what it is actually doing which gives readers the impression that the Government is ‘sleeping’. No acknowledgements on major Government accomplishments in the very areas that you talked about
I would like to extend an invitation to you for a ‘live debate’ so that we can challenge each other on this topic. Your information and arguments are known and so are mine. We will both have a chance to defend our positions and information presented.
I can request Bongo Radio to air the debate live for all Tanzanians who are interested to listen. You will have opportunity to question me and I will question you. The public can also question us. We can find a moderator who is familiar with the Tanzanian situation like Mwanakijiji or some folks from Voice of America or perhaps Bongo Radio could have a person who can volunteer. We will work out the debate format and publish prior to the debate.
We will debate in a language of your choice-English or Kiswahili.
Awaiting your response.
Thank you!!
US Blogger.
(By US Blogger)
I challenged your article on 3 main criteria
1-Your arguments were based on information that is clearly non-factual and irrelevant to the key message even on very obvious pieces of information that anyone with internet access can research on . To me that is equivalent to taking unfair advantage of people who want to believe in you.
2-I did not see any ‘added value’ in your article in the context of what Tanzania is doing and where it is headed.
3-All I saw was demands for the Government to do what it is actually doing which gives readers the impression that the Government is ‘sleeping’. No acknowledgements on major Government accomplishments in the very areas that you talked about
I would like to extend an invitation to you for a ‘live debate’ so that we can challenge each other on this topic. Your information and arguments are known and so are mine. We will both have a chance to defend our positions and information presented.
I can request Bongo Radio to air the debate live for all Tanzanians who are interested to listen. You will have opportunity to question me and I will question you. The public can also question us. We can find a moderator who is familiar with the Tanzanian situation like Mwanakijiji or some folks from Voice of America or perhaps Bongo Radio could have a person who can volunteer. We will work out the debate format and publish prior to the debate.
We will debate in a language of your choice-English or Kiswahili.
Awaiting your response.
Thank you!!
US Blogger.
Mashaka, tafadhali hachana na huyu mtu. Anataka umaarufu kwenye mgongo wako....... dont dare you have acomplished so much to waste your time with these people who are upto no good.
ReplyDeleteUS Blogger, wewe ni mwisho wa matatizo!!!!
ReplyDeleteAsante sana na atunasubiri mdahalo wa kimataifa kwa hamu sana.
Judy
MICHUZI DONT LET THIS GUY USE YOUR WEBSITE FOR THE SAKE OF THE DEAD CUF...
ReplyDeleteTHIS US BASED BLOGGER IS JUST BUT AN OPPORTUNIST WHO IS TRYING TO GET HIS PARTY "CUF" OUT OF THE DITCH.CUF ILISHAKUFA
HUYU MTU WA "CUF" NI MDINI TENA MBAGUZI, AMBAYE ANATAFUTA TTENTION KWENYE BLOG YAKE. MASHAKA WALA USIPOTEZE MUDA WAKO DEBATING THIS GUY
this is interesting. Fanyeni mipango mtutaarifu.
ReplyDeleteUSENENE, ALUTA CONYUA………………………………..
ReplyDeleteMZEE MZIMA MITHUPU. KWANZA KABISA HUYU MTU (US BASED BLOGGER) NITAMUITA MDUDU MWENYEWE SENENE. HII SIYO NAFASI YA KUTUMI KUINYANYUA CHAMA KILICHOKUFA. cuf IS A DEAD THING, DEAD ISSUE
HAFAI KUWA KIONGOZI NA WALA SIDHANII NI KIONGOZI YEYOTE KATIKA TAIFA LETU. KAMA NI KIONGOZI, BASI INABIDI WIZARA ANAYOIFANYIA KAZI IFANYIWE MAREKEBISHO.
USENENE WAKE UNAKUJAJE, YEYE KAZI YAKE KUBWA NI KUMPONDA MASHAKA BINAFSI BADALA YA KUYAPONDA MAKALA YAKE.AKIWA NI MTU MWENYE UPEO NA MSOMI, ITABIDI ACHKUE MUDA WAKE NA KUANDIKA MADA INAYOSEMA “ TANZANIA CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT AGRICULTURE” VINGINEVYO INATUBIDI KUMUITA SENENE MWENYE MAJUNGU NA WIVU.
HUYU NI MBEMA BOXI MCHOVU, ALIYEJAA JADHBA NA HASIRA ZA KIPUMBAVU. HUYU BLOGGER NA SURROGATE WAKE MCHUMI WA TEXAS, AMBAYE KAZI YAKE NI KUANDIKA USHUZI KILA WATU WANAPOCHANGIA AU KUTOA MAONI YAO.
HUYU US-BASED BLOGGER NI MDINI MWENYE ROHO MBAYA AMBAYE HAITAJIKI KATIKA TAIFA LETU, KAMA SIKOSEI NI MWANA CUF NA SIYO CHADEMA JINSI MCHANGIAJI MOJA ALIVYOTAMKA.
WANA CHADEMA NI WATU WALIOELEMIKA NA WENYE UPEO WA HALI YA JUU, HIZI HASIRA NI HASIRA ZA WANA “CUF” AMBAO WANAONA UDINI TU NDIO DAWA YA MAENDELEO
ANAYETAFUTA UMAARUFU NI MCHUMI WA TEXAS MBUMBUMBU, PAMOJA NA BLOGGER WAKE KUPITIA MGONGO WA MASHAKA. SIYO KWAMBA NAMTETEA MASHAKA, HAPANA. MIMI NAMUUNGA MKONO KWA SABABU AMELETA MADA YENYE MAANA AMBAYO INABIDI TUITOLEE MICHANGO YA KITAIFA. MASHAKA NI KIJANA WA KUJITUMA, AMBAYE SIYO TU ANAIELEMISHA JAMII, ANAJITOLEA KWA HALI NA MALI. WEWE BLOGGER UMEFANYIA NINI TANZANIA? UKICHOKA KUBEBA BOXI MAJUU, RUDI TUTAKUKARIBISHA, LAKINI USILETE MAMBO YAKO YA UDINI HAPA
NI RAISI SANA KUKOSOA KULIKO KUTENDA. IKIWA BLOGGER ANA UWEZO KAMA WA MASHAKA, BASI AANDIKE MAKALA YAKE NASI PIA TUSOME.WOTE TUNAIPENDA TANZANIA NA SIYO WEE TU. KILA MMOJA WETU HUMU ANAIPENDA TANZANIA, HATA MASHAKA MWENYEWE NI MZALENDOWAKUTUPA. NIKIKUMBUKA WAKENYA WALIPOTUTUKANA, WENGI TULIONA ALIVYOWAJIBU SIYO KWA JADHBA BALI KWA MPANGILIO NA USTAARABU
Mashaka:
BILA SHAKA, WOTE TUNAFAHAMU UWEZO WAKO, ILA, JARIBU KUTUMIA KIZUNGU RAISI ILI WOTE WAELEWE IKIWA LENGO LAKO NI KUIELEMISHA JAMII YA KITANZANIA. USIWE NA WASIWASI, TUNAKUUNGA NA TUTAKUUNGA MKONO KWA HALI NA MALI, HAKUNA ATAKAYEKUGUSA, UMUHIMU WAKO KWA TANZANIA TUNAIELEWA.
SENENE, ,,,,, “US BASED BLOGGER” NADHANI ITAKUWA VYEMA UKIACHANA NA TABIA YAKO YA USENENE.ANAYEMGUSA, ANATUGUSA WATANZANIA WOTE
UPANGA (DAR)
Mashabiki wa Mashaba mbona munaogopa mdahalo ulio wazi? ama hamumuamini Mashaka kama ana uwezo wa debate na US Blogger?
ReplyDeletePeter
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
ReplyDeleteWIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
WIVU, WIVU, WIVU, WIVU WATANZANIA
Tutakufa na wivu wajameni
Ili Iweje kwani? kama sio kutaka kujipandisha chati. Sasa mbona hata jina lako huandiki kama lengo ni hilo?........Kaaaaaaaazi kwelikweli. Find another alternative my brother.
ReplyDeletenadhani huu mjadala ni muhimu sana. bwana Mashaka ingia mjadala huu. hakuna haja ya kuogopa.
ReplyDeletehuyu ni mdini, kenge hachaneni naye, anataka kuteletea mambo ya O.I.C. kama anatakwenda IRAN basi aondoke, na roho yake mbaya
ReplyDeletembona wabongo zenu kucritisize? halafu mbona matusi matupu? au aliyejibu kwa kutoa matusi ni Mashaka. kwani kuna tatizo lipi kama hawa watu watahojiana. nadhani tutafaidika zaidi. mwanakijiji simamia mjadala huo kwa maendeleo ya taifa letu
ReplyDeleteAm I missing something here? Washabiki wa John Mashaka Mimi sijaona Kosa la US Blogger. Yeye amejibu hoja za Bwana John watu mkamponda kutokana na ushabiki wenu au kutoelewa alichosema. Huu ni wakati wa free speech. Nampongeza US Blogger kwa kuwa tayari my-debate live kwani itatenganisha mchele na pumba. Wadau tunaweza gundua nani ana-desa Kwenye Internet na nani Uchumi Uko Kwenye Damu. Umaarufu wa John Mashaka hautofautiani na ule wa mwanakijiji au Sofia Simba. Ni wakati wasaa wa kukata ngebe hivyo Sisi wadau tunasubiri Bongo Radio ikubali na bwana Mashaka atie timu tuone nani mchumi zaidi. Aongeae pekee mara nyingi hushinda Hivyo live debate ni muafaka. Tujue Liverpool ni nani na bingwa ManU ni nani.
ReplyDeleteBefore anything,,, we want the following points be met:-
ReplyDeleteA: The blogger's names, because we already know Mashaka
B: See some work done by this blogger, we have read multiple of Mashaka's articles.
C: Profession ya huyu blogger, kwa sababu hatutaki kumuokota mtu kuja ku-debate ilhali hana uwezo anajitakia tu umaarufu.
D: What the detabe is going to accomplish, kwa maana umetutisha na maswala yako hasa ya IRAN, na personal attacks.
E: Tungependa mjadala ufanyike mambo haya maswali yakishajibiwa kwa sababu sasa hivi kuna high emotions running here, ambazo zinaonyesha kwamba kuna hasira na wivu which will be of no help
I can volunteer to be a moderator.
Mdau
V. O. A
Mie Naombi Kwa Watanzania! Inabidi tufike mahali tuamke,Sio tunashabikia Watu au Mtu,Mfano Bwana Mashaka Kama anakitu anataka kuifanyia Tanzania kwanini hasirudi Tanzania,akabuni au create hizo Plan zake akiwa Home,ata huko alipo kuna watu walijitoa muaanga Bila kuangalia nini wanalipwa Ndipo wakaifikisha Hiyo Marekani hapo ilipo.So mashaka Wengi wasomi watamuona ni mtu ambae anatafuta umaharufu kupitia wajinga au wapumbavu wachache wanao shabikia bila kujua nini wanafanya.
ReplyDeleteUS based blogger,, apart from the personal attacks and defence of Iran, can we read any of your articles? I think it will give us a picture on who we are dealing with here, else we may be wasting our time with a man trying to further his cause , Do you get my point. Write something so that we can have a look at it first
ReplyDeleteWewe US based blogger kama hutafuti umaarufu kupitia mgongo wa Mashaka, basi ungemwandikia Mashaka moja kwa moja, maana ameweka anwani yake ya barua pepe. Kwangu mimi Mashaka katoa changamoto, wewe kama una hoja za msingi ungeweza kumjibu tena kistaarabu kabisa, naona hapa unakuja kutafuta pa kutokea, ila naona umekosea step kidogo, tafuta njia nyingine ya kujipatia umaarufu, kwanini mbona huweki jina na address yako kama unajiamini na unajua unachokifanya kama sio kuja na vihoja vya udini hapa.
ReplyDeletehuyu bogger, ni mbeba boxi mchovu anataka umaarufu apate naurli ya kurudia bongo. wewe utajengaje paa la nyumba kabla ya kujenga ukuta, jenga kwanza ukuta ndo ujenge nyumba. badala ya kucheza na makala ya mwenzio, andika yako tuyachambue baadae wananchi tutaomba mkutanishwe kama watu wawili mahiri... usituchezee vichwa
ReplyDeleteWatanzania tuachane na ushamba, huyu US Blogger anataka mdahalo kwa nia njema kabisa.
ReplyDeleteKwanza nilidhani hataki kujitaja, lakini kumbe ni mtu muungwana, yuko tayari kusikika na jamii, cha ajabu au kibaya ni nini sasa?
Kama watu mnaipenda Tanzania, basi karibisheni huu mdahalo. Wenzetu wanaendelea kwa sababu wanaruhusu mawazo ya wengi kusikika. Watanzania bado tuna tabia za enzi zile kwamba kutoa mawazo si jambo jema, na mtu akitoa wazo likakupendeza, basi usiruhusu mwingine atoe wazo tofauti. Hivi titaamka lini? Na pengine haya ndiyo matatizo ya blogu, kwamba kila John na Juma ana uwezo wa kusema.
Tunaomba wenye uwezo wa kusaidia huu mjadala mfanye hivyo, tunahitaji jamii ya watu wanaojadiliana, siyo wanaotukanana.
Kwa nini mnataka kumuita eti mtu wa CUF iwapo yeye hajasema ni wa chama gani? Kuna mtu alimwita eti wa CHADEMA, hivi kwa nini watu mna mawazo finyu? Muite yeye kama alivyo, kwa nini unataka kubandika chama kwenye fikra zake?
Hii inaonesha jinsi tulivyo kule nyuma kwenye miaka 1970, akili zetu haziwezi kufikiri nje ya kisanduku cha mazoea.
Hii ni aibu kwa kizazi hiki cha Watanzania. Jamani tuamke na tuwe wastaarabu.
Michuzi ukiweza saidia hawa jamaa wajadiliane.
Us Based Blogger, first of all your English is awful, and you ought to know that IRAN is not religion, it is a country, so how religion thing comes into this? when somebody saying something and referring Iran it does not mean religion, is not it? Even you you did not back you facts with credible references, your article is not an academic, it is like a tabloid in Uhuru newspaper, as well too no one will believe you if you don't back your facts with credible references. It looks like you are within the government or you have a relative in it that is why your entire article defends it, know one is against the overnment, what people they try to do in good faith is throwing a towel on our issues so as to contribute how we could move from where we are to the better place, if the government is doing just that, then well we appreciate it, but I doubt, and, that is my opinion. ARTICLE YA MASHAKA ILIKUWA NZURI SANA PAMOJA NA KWAMBA NI MAMBO AMBAYO YAPO NA YANASEMWA NA WATU HATA KABLA YAKE, LAKINI NI LAZIMA TU-APPRECIATE KUWA AMBACHUKUWA MUDA WAKE KUKUSANYA NA KUTULETEA IN ONE PIECE. MZEE WA US BASED BLOGGER ACHA HASIRA NA KUITETEA SERIKALI SWALA HALIKUWA LA SERIKALI LILIKUWA LA WATANZANIA WOTE. it seems as if you are obssessed with something that you did not want to expose. ACHA HASIRA UTAZEEKA HARAKA, relax man.
ReplyDeleteUS Based blogger jina lako ni nani ? mwenzio John Mashaka tunalijua jina na hata yule Dokta wa Uingereza tunamjua jina.
ReplyDeleteJitokeze tuanze kujua CV yako kwa kutumia jina halisi.
Us Based Blogger, first of all your English is awful, and you ought to know that IRAN is not religion, it is a country, so how religion thing comes into this? when somebody saying something and referring Iran it does not mean religion, is not it? Even you you did not back you facts with credible references, your article is not an academic, it is like a tabloid in Uhuru newspaper, as well too no one will believe you if you don't back your facts with credible references. It looks like you are within the government or you have a relative in it that is why your entire article defends it, know one is against the overnment, what people they try to do in good faith is throwing a towel on our issues so as to contribute how we could move from where we are to the better place, if the government is doing just that, then well we appreciate it, but I doubt, and, that is my opinion. ARTICLE YA MASHAKA ILIKUWA NZURI SANA PAMOJA NA KWAMBA NI MAMBO AMBAYO YAPO NA YANASEMWA NA WATU HATA KABLA YAKE, LAKINI NI LAZIMA TU-APPRECIATE KUWA AMBACHUKUWA MUDA WAKE KUKUSANYA NA KUTULETEA IN ONE PIECE. MZEE WA US BASED BLOGGER ACHA HASIRA NA KUITETEA SERIKALI SWALA HALIKUWA LA SERIKALI LILIKUWA LA WATANZANIA WOTE. it seems as if you are obssessed with something that you did not want to expose. ACHA HASIRA UTAZEEKA HARAKA, relax man.
ReplyDeleteus Blogger hakujitaja, hakuna haja ya kuhisi ni nani, ila kitu kimoja ni kwamba, Watanzania tuache kupondeana, mtu akitoa wazo lake, angalia pointi zake kisha jibu kwa hoja.
ReplyDeleteHatuwezi kufanikiwa kwa kukanyagana. Kama wewe unamuona mtu fulani ni shujaa wako, sawa tu, usitukane wengine wanamuona tofauti.
Yaani sioni hapa, hata Ubishi, pamoja na Ublogger wako, Kizungu cha Mashaka ni flow less na world standard.Licha ya yote, haujaandika chochote cha maana, zaidi ya kwenda kuweka vijimaneno na kujifanya bingwa. andika kitu tusome, hacha majungu.hacha kutafuta umaarufu wa ovyo namna hii, sasa mdahalo wa nini wakati hauna issue zaidi ya kumvamia mwenzio
Pia, ni vema kama mtu unatoa makala ndefu ukajitaja ili mjadala uwe na uwazi badala ya kuacha washikaji wengine wakihangaika kutafuta ni nani halafu wanaishia kupakazia watu wengine bila kuwa na uhakika.
Tanzania haitajengwa kwa watu kutukanana. US-Blogger, TAFAKARI we cant do things out of sheer emotions, ungeshamfanya kitu cha maana, tungekufahamu tunavyomfahamu mashaka
Inasikitisha sana kuona watanzania badala ya kujenga always tona-strive katika kubomoa. personally naelekea upande wa Mr. John Mashaka ingawa sijaona kosa lolote alilofanya huyu bwana mpaka huyu mu-Iran amvamie.
ReplyDeleteAlichofanya ni kutoa maoni yake ambayo yanatoa nafasi kwa wanajamii ambao ni civilized, kuweza kujadili maoni yake na sio kumjadili yeye.
Hakika hii inadhihirisha kwamba Watanzania wengi tuna mapungufu katika fikra zetu, tunasahau ule msemo kwamba great minds discuss about ISSUES, average minds discuss about EVENTS and INFERIOR minds discuss/talk about PEOPLE.
Kwanini discussion zetu zinakuwa kuhusu Mashaka as an individual and not about his article? Swali hili nawaulize wale wanaomuita Mashaka genius as well as wale wanaomuita Mashaka kuwa ni mbabaishaji.
WHY TALK ABOUT THE PERSON AND NOT HIS ARTICLE or what he's trying to propose? Are we really that inferior in thinking? Why do we always prove our critics RIGHT when they suggest that we are peoples of INFERIOR minds?
Endapo kama huyu "USA based Blogger" alikuwa ana maoni yake kwanini asiyatoe kama vile Mashaka alivyofanya? Au wewe Economist in TEXAS, why do you have to attack MAshaka's credibility as a person instead of pointing out (respectfully if not in a civil manner) his article's flaws. Are you that inferior in mind?
WAKE UP Watanzania, let's discuss Mashaka or anyone's proposed ISSUES and not that individual's personality or their state of mind.
Now to add to Mashaka's article, i think Tanzania as a country we need to revolutionize our agricultural economy by improving our farming techniques and if possible put more emphasis on large scale commercial farming.
to acheive that, we need to put forth a comprehensive agricultural sector reform policy that will address first and foremost the LAND ownership policy and how to lease that land to foreign investors who will invest in large scale commercial farming.
Diversification will need to be in the type of crops that will be produced, that alone will ensure Tanzania has a safe and diversified agricultural economy that's supported by the manufacturing industry, i.e. food processing etc.
Kweli watanzania bado tuko nyuma kiakili na kiupeo. Jamaa yeye kaomba mdahalo. Nyie wengine (hasa huyo hapo juu uliyeandika kwa herufi kubwa) mnabwabwaja maneno bila ya msingi. Mwacheni Mashaka mwenyewe atoe sera zake. Uzalendo wake utaonekana dhahiri pale tutakapomsikia akipambanua na kujibu maswali. Yeye mwenyewe anaweza kuuliza maswali atakavyo. Kama nia ya huyo US Blogger ni kumharibia mwenzake, itaonekana wazi siku ya mdahalo. Tafadhali kaka Michu tujulishe ni lini watu tufungulie redio zetu za vifuu!!
ReplyDeletehuyu blogger ana ugonjwa unaoitwa inferiority Complex,,
ReplyDeletekwa maneno machache, huyu blogger ni mtu hatari kwa taifa letu hafai !
ReplyDeleteHey guys
ReplyDeleteI think both Mashaka and US blogger got me mixed up when they realy don't single out what is wrong and what's not.
I won't give a dime with what Venezuela and Iran are doing and instead I will fight to root out corruption from our society.
Talk about anybody you want but there ain't anybody coming to get rid of corruption in our communities.
After all you are in south of the sahara desert and not bordering any superpower cause you can't geographically transfer any of your problems to them. If you don't understand me then I mean you are not bordering Europe, north America or Japan. Your problems will stay with you.
Like Rwanda, like Durfor,like Congo.
Our leaders young and old must come to realise that we can't continue to legalise(kind of) corruption and think we will go anywhere.
I'm waiting for that time when the capital punishment will be introduced to all corrupt individuals , yes , I mean it!
Principals of economics work but not in corrupt societies like ours.
We have to have something good to identify ouselves with not corruption and rhetoric
Otherwise anybody can say anything but our economies will continue to serve the few who have acsess to powers
I.E the TRA's and the like.
Thanks
Mkereketwa
Boston,USA
Kigurunyembe Sec.
ReplyDeleteUS bigger ana blog kwa hasira. Judging from Mashala point of view, haja ilaumu serekali iliyoko madarakani ya kwamba haifanyi kazi, wala haja sema chochote kuhusu CCM manifesto au chama chochote cha siasa. Chazaidi, alichoandika mashaka, has nothing to do with current government performance. The issue is: CAN TANZANIA SURVIVE WITHOUT AGRICULTURE? The answer should have been YES or NO and defend your point/s. You did not answer any part of it except scorning Mashaka’s writing skills and point of view. I recommend your effort, but your contribution is of no significance whatsoever. Don’t be angry. Wewe umesema Mashaka ana tafuta sifa. At the sametime wewe unataka uka debate na Mashaka redioni; regarding what?
Michuzi: hatumtaki huyu kibaraka wa IRAN, sijui kwa nini unayakubali makala yake kwanza,majitu mengine bwana, abebe boxi kwa utulivu?
ReplyDeletefity-cents
US based blogger, thanks for your interest in debating Mashaka. However I happen to be concerned with your interest to whether you want to boost your ego by pointing your fingers on Mashaka’s arguments or prove to us that you’re good at what you do. You don't seem to have constructive criticism at all. No one has stopped you from voicing your arguments, whether your arguments are factual and relevant, it is up to the public to judge. We live in a free society that encourages what they call free speech but not personal attacks to Mashaka as you have indicated. Many people have presented their views on matters that concern our country and African economy as whole. Debating Mashaka is to me what I call a personal attach based on no proper grounds (Irrelevance or Non-factual) is not universal but relative.
ReplyDeleteIf you really want to debate, DO IT RIGHT HERE ON THE BLOG so we can criticize your views while safeguarding the freedom of speech and hence constructive criticism will be achieve. Mashaka voiced his views, to what ground and reasoning you do criticize Mashaka, is what we are interested on. We need your well thought through arguments based on what evidence/sources/information to make your argument factual is what matters to us. Scholars argue or criticize others in a scholarly manner, not childish debates like those we did in secondary schools.
Mashaka, I don’t know you but I would suggest you stay away from this blogger. He is up to no good. He seems to be out of touch or looking something other than a debate as he called it.
mashaka, mbona kimya? mpasue huyu ulivyompasua Warigi, utaona atakavyofyata mkia. mie nayasubiria makombora yako, kwa maana nakuaminia vita navianze,
ReplyDeletealuta continuaaaa
Fair play...
ReplyDeleteNaona ni jinsi rahisi ya kumaliza kelele. Binafsi sidhani kama 'US Blogger' ni CUF au chama cha upinzani, kwani nimeona ana hoja ya kuwa sio kweli serikali haijafanya kitu kama alivosema banker aka economist aka mwokozi wa tz aka genius aka rais 2015 aka kila kitu wa tz.
Nashawishika kuamini kuwa comments nyingi za wanaopinga debate zimeandikwa na mtu mmoja. Sioni ugumu wa debate, online, for free. Uzuri ni kwamba mmoja wao kashasema yuko tayari na katoa mwaliko, nadhani katupa wasaha mzuri wa kuona nani ni nani. Naamini credit crunch controller of the world hatoona tatizo kudebate kwa dk 30.
ww blogger, before this internatinal debate of the century takes place
ReplyDeletei advice you to polish your english before you dare debating rhetoric powerhouse Jonh mashaka. this is my honest advice to you
alafu rafiki yangu hacha wivu na hasira.
ndg. yangu mzalendo bloger nadhani unatudhalilisha wasomi wenzio. msomi anachambua mambo taratibu siyo kuonyesha chuki za kibinafsi. na uwezo wako unautumia kujenga hoja siyo kupayuka payuka. umempa bwana mdogo points kabla ya mjadala na hapo ndo atakumalizia. ikiwa yy ni mtu makini, naani tayari keshaona udhaifu wako
ReplyDeletemdau-kwa bi mkubwa
US blogger you are very ignorant and arrogant person, what John Mashaka said was just pure editorial and wasn't looking for a fight. You took it personal because you are stupid with unnecessary JAZBA. Grow up and be matured we don't need fights but ideas to help our country succesed.
ReplyDeleteKaka Michuzi,
ReplyDeleteHii tathmini fupi khs mambo mawili matatu hivi yanayoendelea ktk blog ya jamii, na pia khs hili suala la Mashaka na US Blogger.
Binafsi nimechunguza na kufuatilia comments nyingi za mada mbalimbali, kwa siku kadhaa.Kitu kikubwa ambacho nimekigundua ambacho naamini wanajamii watatusaidia kuna BIFU kubwa sana kati ya wabongo waliopo Tanzania na wabongo waliopo nje ya Tanzania.Wewe angalia kila comment, endapo mada itatolewa na watu waliopo bongo, mfano mtu anatanga khs kuuza gari au kitu fulani, utasikia mtu anaponda kuwa waliopo bongo hawajui kitu, hakutakati kupinga kwa hoja, ila mtu anabaki kum-attack mtu binafsi bila hoja, au kuropoka tu bila mpango.Na vilevile mtu wa ughaibuni akitoa mchango wake, atapondwa kuwa waliopo nje wanajifanya wanajua boksi zimewachosha etc.
Kwa mujibu wa Baba wa Taifa, Nyerere, endapo ukiondoa Utanganyika na Uzanzibar, kutaanza Upemba na Uunguja, na huku Tanganyika kutatoea Tanga, Kogoma, Mwanza etc. Sasa ukiondoa mambo ya ughaibuni na waliopo Tanzania, utaona kuna vita ya waliopo huku ughaibuni kuoneshana nani ni nani, na ana fanya nini huku, wengine kupinga kuwa hawapigi boksi, na wengine kuona mtu mwenye kufahamika Tanzania yupo ughaibuni ni kupigwa vita na wenzake kwa sana tu.
Mimi binafsi nilikua simjui bwana Mashaka. Ila niliona ktk comment moja miezi iliyopita kuwa "muone John Mashaka akupe ujanja"...nikajiuliza huyu Mashaka ni nani?Nikacheki ktk google, na pia ktk vyomba mbalimbali vya Tanzania, nikasikiliza mahojiano yake na vyombo mbalimbali, na kufuatilia khs afanyavyo mambo ya maendeleo.Kusema kweli jamaa anafanya mambo ya msingi sana....sasa watu wengi wanaponda eti hawezi kuwa ktk Wall Street, kwani ni mbinguni huko Wall Street, mbona Migiro ni Naibu katibu mkuu wa UN mbona hamjasema haiwezekani?Kitu kingine sisi watanzania tuliopo huku ughaibuni wengi wamekua na tabia za kipuuzi, kwani wanamuona Mashaka kama mtu afanyaye mambo ya msingi lakini wao hawajafanya hata kimoja, hivyo roho ni kuwauma wanaanza kupinga ooh jamaa hafanyi kazi, mara asemacho ni uongo etc.
Ukiangalia US Blogger Vs Mashaka, US Blogger anataka kuibuka na kutafuta umaarufu.Wewe suala la mdahalo wa nini??Mmekua Obama Vs McCain?Wewe US Blogger kama unataka midahalo, nenda kapambane na akina Slaa, na Tundulisu huko bongo kwenye majukwaa muweke midahalo ya kujua data zaidi.Si lazima uioneshe una bifu kaka.Wewe nawe andika makala yako khs Elimu, Madini etc, sio lazima umuatacck Mashaka.
Kuna umuhimu Michuzi kuanza kubana mambo ambayo yanaipeleka blog ya jamii nje ya mstari.Inafika mahali blog ya jamii inaanza kuonekana kama kijiwe flani cha kupotezea muda..hii blog ya jamii ni suala la msingi sana, watu wasilete upuuzi nalo kabisa...kwa bongo blog hii ni sawa na vile BBC au CNN kazi yake kwa watanzania wote duniani tunaunganishwa na blog ya jamii (mtu upinge au usipinge, huu ni ukweli).
Ushauri kwa Mashaka. Mashaka, mambo unayofanya ni ya msingi, achana na watu wenye majungu, wanataka kupanda kupitia mongo wako.Wewe endelea na projects zako kama kawaida, usijibu lolote, tuone huyo US blogger atafanya nini.Maana kwa wale tunaokumbuka Sister P mwanamziki ni sawa na US Blogger, maana Sister P aliibuka kupitia mgongo wa Zey B kwa kuibuka na Bifu na kuponda, baada ya Zey B kupumzika kimziki, sister P kapoea sasa hivi hana mashairi tena. Mwana FA alisema, Sister P angeimba nini kama asingekuwepo Zey B? Tujiulize, ni lini huyu US Blogger alishwahi kutioa article yake au kufanya lolote lile ktk blog ya jamii?Maana bila hii article ya Mashaka, tusingemjua huyu US Blogger.
MDAU
Marekani
US Blogger, it seems people are scared of you. Because you are the best. You can't tell about the book by the cover but by its contents.
ReplyDeleteUS Blogger asked and/or requested the so called activist to debate with you, to prove his knowledge and/or agnitio of what is claiming to have. John penuria gnaritus than the google unus. John claims that Dubai is a country! This is a kind of Sarah P, McCain's VP.
I am sure JM wont consentio and/or annuo on your postulatio. His argument about TZ is below par and defacto, ad infinitum.
JM, are you ready for the requested debate?
MDAU NY
You Guys Are Getting Too Personal,
ReplyDeleteMotoMoto.
Kweli watanzania tuna mambo!
ReplyDeleteMtu kajitolea kuitisha mdahalo,badala tusubiri tumsikilize ana hoja gani,tunaanza kupiga madongo.Nani kalazimisha mtu humu afuate chama chake?(kama ana chama).Mwache adahiliane na Mashakakama hana hoja ya maana,tuanze kumpinga kwa hoja maana mpaka sasa sioni cha maana mnachopinga isipokuwa mtu mwenyewe.Wananchi,muda umefika kusikiliza hoja za watu na tuache ubumbuwazi wa fikra.Sikiliza hoja,achana na mtoa hoja.
U.S based blogger,John Mashaka tuko pamoja.Tuambieni watanzania (wale wenye uwezo wa kusikiliza na kuchambua hoja) nini fikra zenu na mawazo yenu ili kusaidia nchi yetu.
The rest of you,can go to hell and while at it,learn a thing or two about critical analysis.
what the F************ what is this debate all about? you cant be serious guys,, we are waiting to see and hear. tell us the station
ReplyDeleteBABU MBONA KIDHUNGU CHAKO NOT REACHABLE?
ReplyDeleteSASA UTAWEZANA NA DOGO MSWAHILI? NAONA WEWE UNAJITAFUTIA AIBU, MUULIZE DR. SHAYO.
Namba nami nishiriki mdahalo, nampinga, Mashaka, name time and Place, DAR will be cool and mdahalo live on TV
ReplyDeletehivi huyu mashaka ni nani anawasumbua watu vichwa hivi
ReplyDeletemimi nataka tu nimuone jamani. yaani kila sehemu watu mashaka, mashaka, kweli ulizaliwa na mwanamke. Nimekuvulia kofia
mithupu hivi huyu jamaa kwa sisi tunaoishi marekani tunaweza kumuona vipi?
Kuna kitu ambacho watanzania inabidi tukiache nacho ni stigma za ajabu ajabu. Kwa wale wote mnaodhani kwamba Blogger based in US anachotafuta ni popularity, then nadhani is insanity.
ReplyDeleteUS blogger amelist argument zake kwamba Mh. Mashaka hana supporting factors kwenye argument zake, ameshindwa kufanya research kwenye most of point of view.
Mimi nadhani kama mashaka anafanya haya kwa sake ya Tanzania then this is appropiate time kwa yeye kuwek arguments zake kwenye mdahalo. Debate sio kitu kibaya bali ni kuelimishana. I support the idea 100%.
Mchumi wa Texas
Mkuu wa Wilaya ya Nanii.. Hii ni changamoto nzuri na pia ni kitu kizuri kufanyika kwani wanasiasa wetu hawafanyi debate tena na kupima hoja za nguvu hakupo isipokuwa tunaburuzana tu, kilichosema kimesemwa.
ReplyDeleteNiko tayari kuhost hiyo debate na nina uhakika mzee mwenzangu GQ hatomind tukai simulcast kwenye bongoradio vile vile. Mdau wa US na Mashaka wasilianeni nami tuweze kupanga mambo yatakavyokwenda.
guys trust me. niliwaambia kwamba mashaka namwaminia. this guys BLOGGER is not going to get a free pass
ReplyDeletemashaka is coming back at him, watch, and i bet you Tsh 100,000/ kwamba aluta continua ndo inaanza.
michuzi ongeza sauti, tusikie wote.
tanzania hoyeeeeeeeee
mwaka huu tumeuanza kwa raha ndani ya rohooooooooooooo
michuzi oyeeeeeeeeeeee
washabiki tusibirini mtaona. nani zaidi na yeyoye ambaye anataka ku tengeneza hela hapa, tuwasiliane
mwenza1974@yahoo.co.uk
nipotayari kutoa tsh 100,000 cash kama hivi vita vya kalamu mshindi hatapatikana. mtaona
sijawahi kumuona mtu anayeruka mavi na baadae kukanyaga mkojo.
ReplyDeleteHuyu mtu anajitakia makuu, You cannot debate Mashaka, trust me
TRUST me, utakuja kupata umaarufu wa kuvutwa juu ya mavi. Ila ninachokuuliza mbona una itikadi kali kiasi hicho ndugu yangu
Hau ndo unataka kuiuza tanzania O.I.C ulishakula hela zao siyo?
Watanzania siku hizi tumejanjaruka kweli kweli, hatutaki kuuzwa tena
KLH NEWS INTERNATIONAL, GOOD IDEA UMEJITOLEA.
ReplyDeleteNIPO PAMOJA NA US BLOGGER 100%. KITENDO CHA MASHAKA KUPENDEKEZA TANZANIA IBADILI MWELEKEO WA KUENDELEZA KILIMO NI DALILI TOSHA KUWA KUKAA KWAKE USA KUMEMLEWESHA AKILI.
NASUBIRI HUO MDAHALO KWA HAMU KUBWA KWA SABABU MPAA SASA SIONI HOJA ZA MASHAKA KABISA, HUO MDAHALO UTATOA NAFASI KUWEKA MAWAZO YAKE BARAZANI KWA FAIDA YA WENGI.
Mimi ninachouliza ni kwamba huyu mtu hatumfahamu na yupo gizani
ReplyDeletewakina mashaka ni watu wanaofanya commentary CNBC, Bloomberg TV's etc.. sasa mtu ambaye ameandika vilaini kumuweka kujadiliana na mwenzie haki iko wapi?
Nadhani huyu blogger anatafuta umaarufu tu kusema kweli, na watu kama hawa ukiwadekeza
wanakuharibia kazi zako kabisa, mashaka hachana na huyu Imani kali utajuaje kakubebea AK47 ndani ya kanzu?
Huyu mtu anatafuta instant fame and publicity,
Nilikuwa sijaona huu mjadala unaoendelea hapa mpaka usiku huu lakini sidhani kama kimeharibika kitu, kama wahusika wako tayari kutaka kufanya LIVE debate kupitia BONGO RADIO, sisi hapa tuko tayari na suala ni kutafuta muda muafaka utakaokubalika na wote. Kama Mwanakiji alivyosema anaweza kujitolea kuwa moderator katika mdahalo huo, basi itakuwa jambo zuri sana au hata akitokea mtu mwingine ambaye atakuwa tayari ku-moderate pia haitokuwa tatizo. Karibuni wote ndani ya BONGO RADIO.
ReplyDeleteAhsanteni,
Geeque.
Bongo Radio.
Mie Naombi Kwa Watanzania! Inabidi tufike mahali tuamke,Sio tunashabikia Watu au Mtu,Mfano Bwana Mashaka Kama anakitu anataka kuifanyia Tanzania kwanini hasirudi Tanzania,akabuni au create hizo Plan zake akiwa Home,ata huko alipo kuna watu walijitoa muaanga Bila kuangalia nini wanalipwa Ndipo wakaifikisha Hiyo Marekani hapo ilipo.So mashaka Wengi wasomi watamuona ni mtu ambae anatafuta umaharufu kupitia wajinga au wapumbavu wachache wanao shabikia bila kujua nini wanafanya.
ReplyDeleteKUNA WENGI HUMU WAMEFILISIKA KIMAWAZO, WANADHANI KUILETEA MAENDELEO TANZANI NI LAZIMA UWEPO TANZANIA KIMWILI.!!!!!
ReplyDeleteus blogger naomba nikutafutie mchumba wa kwenu kenya na si mtanzania ok? your nothing but a looooooooooo so get lost
ReplyDeleteNaona watu humu hawasomi article nzima. Kazi ni makelele kibao, ndio shida ya wabong.
ReplyDeleteSwali 1: Nani kasema US Blogger ni CUF, CHADEMA au CCM?
Swali 2: NI wapi US Blogger kaonyesha imani yake? Kama sio ulimbuikeni wa wabongo waliochangia hizi hoja?
Swali 3: What is wrong with US Blogger kuomba debate na Mashaka?
KLH, Mwanakijiji, weka mambo sawa ili tupate debate yenye afyaaa. Watu kila siku Mashaka Mashaka... sasa kama kweli Mashaka ha recycle mambo, siku ya siku haya yote yatajulikana.
Na Mdau wa V.O.A, hayo masharti yako mbona yapo RTD style, hapo sasa upo Marekani, land of the free, either facilitate hii debate of just shut up.
(By US Blogger)
ReplyDeleteGeeque of Bongo Radio and Mwanakijiji, I appreciate your willingness to facilitate the proposed debate.
Sielewi mashabiki wa Mashaka kwa nini wanadai mambo yasiyo na msingi kama papers na resume, mimi sikuja hapa kugombea kazi na Mashaka. Sitaki kuleta mdahalo wa nani ana more lofty resume, nataka mdahalo unaohusiana na mada na yaliyosemwa kati yangu na Mashaka. Nimekuja hapa kuomba mdahalo na Mashaka, kwa nini musimu encourage a participate ili kila mmoja azungumze na nyinyi mutusikilize?
Nimesema na wasikilizaji mutapata nafasi ya kutuhoji, sasa kwa nini hamuoni kwamba maswali yenu mutaweza kuyaleta katika debate na muna focus more on unnecessary obstacles? Na nimempa Mashaka nafasi ya kuchagua lugha. What more can I offer?
Nasubiri confirmation ya Mashaka ili tu coordinate na Bongo Radio na Mwanakijiji. Hakuna haja ya blah blah nyingi.
(By US Blogger)
ReplyDeleteKuja, Geeque of Bongo Radio and Mwanakijiji, I appreciate your willingness to facilitate the proposed debate.
Sielewi mashabiki wa Mashaka kwa nini wanadai mambo yasiyo na msingi kama papers na resume, mimi sikuja hapa kugombea kazi na Mashaka. Sitaki kuleta mdahalo wa nani ana more lofty resume, nataka mdahalo unaohusiana na mada na yaliyosemwa kati yangu na Mashaka. Nimekuja hapa kuomba mdahalo na Mashaka, kwa nini musimu encourage a participate ili kila mmoja azungumze na nyinyi mutusikilize?
Nimesema na wasikilizaji mutapata nafasi ya kutuhoji, sasa kwa nini hamuoni kwamba maswali yenu mutaweza kuyaleta katika debate na muna focus more on unnecessary obstacles? Na nimempa Mashaka nafasi ya kuchagua lugha. What more can I offer?
Nasubiri confirmation ya Mashaka ili tu coordinate na Bongo Radio na Mwanakijiji na Kuja. Hakuna haja ya blah blah nyingi. Hoja hujibiwa kwa hoja sio mbwembwe!!!
TANGAZO TANGAZO TANGAZO
ReplyDeleteWAPENDWA WASOMAJI HABARI ZA KUAMINIKA NI KWAMBA JOHN MASHAKA AMEAMUA KUINGIA MITINI. ANAONA HERI NUSU SHARI YA KUINGIA MITINI KULIKO SHARI KAMILI YA KUAIBIKA HADHARANI. JAPO KIDHUNGU CHAKE KINA-FLOW VIZURI AKIWA ANA-COPY FROM THE INTERNET HUWA ANA MATATIZO YA KUONGEA HIVYO UDHUNGU NOT FLUENTLY REACHABLE. MIMI NAMUOMBEA MSAMAHA KWA US BLOGGER NA I HOPE JAMII YA WATANZANIA ITAMSAMEHE PIA WAKATI AKIENDELEA KUKIKUZA KIPAJI CHAKE KINDA CHA UCHUMI
TO US BLOGGER
ReplyDeleteUMEMJIBU MASHAKA KWA HOJA NA UMEJITOLEA KUFANYA NAYE DEBATE...MIMI NAONA SASA UTULIE KAMA MAJI MTUNGINI KUMSUBIRI MASHAKA AJIBU.
MPAKA DAKIKA HII U.S BLOGGER 1 - MASHAKA 0.
Wabongo watu wa ajabu sana, Sasa kwanini mnamchukia US Blogger? mlishamwona?
ReplyDelete..sasa kwanini mumchukie mtu ambaye hamjamwona hata kwenye picha!? mtu akikuuliza kwanini umechukia ukamwambia ni kwasababu ya US Blogger ni nani!? wewe utasemaje? utasemaje?
..vipi kama US Blogger ni kompyuta tu inajiandika yenyewe!? utachukia kompyuta!?
..taratibu hapo, nimewaangalia sana naona mna-loose it. Mtaukalia mnakuja kasi wabongo!?
anyway, i luv you Bongo japo sijafika!?
= = =
Buffalo,
New York State
wana jamii nimeshangaa sana kuona watu wana jazba kiasi hiki. kuweni na busara kidogo hata kama mnabeba maboksi. acheni ushabiki. hii tabia ya uccm na ucaf, uchadema inakujaje hapa.
ReplyDeletesiamini kama watu bado wanaushabiki wa kizamani. eti Mashaka Mashaka. iko hivyo hivyo hapa bongo. hatujui kafanya nini na atafanya nini lakini kelele nyingi tu. fulani fulani. akiingia mchemsho.
tumewaona viongozi wengi huko nyumbani wakipigiwa makelele hivyo. wakipewa nafasi wanachemsha. kwanini hatubadiliki? elimu zenu, kuishi nje yote bure. hata hamuoni wenzetu wanafanya nini. sie kelele tu. (usenene)
badilikeni bwana
HUYU US BLOGGER KAJA KUPOTOSHA JAMII KWAMBA TUACHANE NA MAWAZO YA MASHAKA YA KUFIKIRIA MBELE NA KUKUZA UCHUMI WETU KUPITIA MALI ZETU. YEYE KAJA KUTUAMBIWA KWAMBA HAYO MAMBO YANAFANYWA NA SERIKALI ,JE SERIKALI INAFANYA HIVYO KWA KUPITIA UFISADI AU MIKATABA YAO MIBOVU? NA NDIO MAANA HUJAWEKA JINA LAKO HUMU KWA SABABU HUJIAMINI NA TUNAKUSUBIRI SANA KWENYE MJADALA HUU ULIOMBA? "MTOTO AKILILIA WEMBE MPE"
ReplyDeleteHeY Hey, I don't get what's going on in here. I just read in brief what I think is US bloggers' point of view and so far I see nothing wrong. May be is the way he/she chose to reply Mashaka's article is the problem. HEY GUYS BE "OPEN MINDED".
ReplyDeleteUS Blogger it seems you have something in your head ambacho kinakuumiza na ni mgumu wa kuelewa mambo, MASHAKA hakusema serikali haifanyi kazi, alichofanya ni kuleta changa moto ya mawazo juu ya maendeleo ya Tanzania. Uandishi wake uko katika style ya academicians, ni kwamba unapotaka kuandika kitu unaanza na introduction ya hiyo topic yako kwa mbali ili kuwapa watu uelewa wa kitu unachotaka kuelezea, tunaweza kuita ni LITERATURE VIEW, unachambua mambo ambayo yanafanana na kitu unachotaka kuelezea then unakuja kwenye kitu unachoelezea, even though the literature review must and always should not be perfect and there in no perfect literature review, kama US BLOGGER umefanya postgraduate degree then you will be in a position of knowing what I am talking about (Imean kama umefanya Masters or PhD). Una matatizo makubwa ya uelewa, hamna mtu amesema serikali haifanyi kazi yake, inafanya lakini scale ya umasikini ni kubwa hamna visible change up to now, there are no credible open means that reach to people kuondokana na umasikini.. HAMNA HAJA YA DEBATE YAKO.
ReplyDeleteThat's why i ran from that country long time ago with no intention of going back and as days passes i keep on getting proofs that i made a heck of a smart decision..
ReplyDeletedebate for what?? who does each individual represent or attempting to represent? Is it a skill/knowledge contest?
Are these two on the process to making their way for presidencial candidacy? Are they on a similar mission? Let's ask why? Who? When? What? and Where? before we propose a debate
unaweza kukuta mmoja anatafuta ubunge mwingine uraisi au mwingine hataki cheo halafu mnataka wa-debate
wabongo bwana....
Huyu U.S. Blogger anataka kumtumia Mashaka kupata popularity na hits kwenye webistes yake which means...more eyeballs, more advertising $$$.
ReplyDeleteKama U.S. Blogger una shida na Serikali basi keep blogging watu wasio ridhika na Serikali watakufuata. Kama wewe una beef na ma critic wa Serikali puleeease nenda Jamii Forums..wako wengi sana.. I am there as well. Usitafute cheap popularity na few hits kwa ajili ya kuganga njaa kwa jina la Mashaka. I defend Mashaka though I do not know him, but I respect what he's done for his people.
Phatlorenzo - MN
KURA YA MAONI KUMFUNGIA US BLOGGER.
ReplyDeleteMICHUZI TUNAOMBA US BLOGGER a.k.a(KAWAWA) APIGWE MARUFUKU KWENYE GLOBU YA JAMII KWA SABABU ANACHAFUA HALI YA HEWA na USENENE WAKE.
ANAJIPOSTIA COMMENTS 400 KWENYE KILA STORY. AU ANAONA UCHUNGU KWA SABABU CHIINGLISHI IS NOT REACHABLE KWAKE?
TUNAOMBA KAMA WANABLOGU, AFUNGIWE TAFADHALI SANA, HANA ADABU KWETU SISI WENGINE
KICHUGUU
huyu blogger English is not reachable ndo maana anazua zua mambo mengi, baba eh, nenda ukapiga msasa lugha, TOBA hata mimi maimuna nimemuelewa mashaka,
ReplyDelete--maziwa yalosimama--